We need another Housing purge

[Hamada]

At the very least Alleo understands that punishing players without warning is unfair. If SE gave a warning that they would no longer turn a blind eye to certain violations that would be fair and I would have no complaints. Some would still complain, but overall if SE gave warnings and did not punish people retroactively that is fair. You on the other hand want to punish people retroactively for something SE was made aware the moment the rule changes were announced. That is unfair, I cannot speak for anyone else but that is all I have been trying point out that punishing people for violations they have let go unchecked because of a change of heart is unfair, they should make an official statement stating how they are going to be stricter when it comes to rule enforcement.

Sorry the ToS itself is not a warning, since if they do not enforce the rules they should not expect people to follow them. Do you not see how it would be unfair to hand out punishments without giving an official statement regarding the change in how they will be handing enforcing the ToS, after not enforcing said rules for the longest time? Nevertheless, I do agree with Zale, that realistically you should be more upset
with SE, people warned SE and they did not listen yet you are upset with players instead of the developers.

"You on the other hand want to punish people retroactively for something SE was made aware the moment the rule changes were announced. " I have no idea what you are trying to say here. Are you just trying to slightly twist what is being stated to make your narrative sound better or are you simply not understanding what I am saying? Our stances are not different at all, and yet you are trying to make them sound like they are, for what reason I am not sure, other then pointing out I do not like it and explaining why. SE states rules before the new wards go in effect, people exploit the rules, one person even explained here how you do it, so that is wrong, plain and simple, and Alleo said before such actions is rule breaking. I am not sure what your objective is trying to say we are saying different things.

They gave an official statement:
https://youtu.be/BJwPCxau7CA?t=334

Yes you are right, I am very upset with SE, I am very upset they are not taking action on someone posting how to exploit the rules, why you think I am here to begin with? SE not babying the player base is not an excuse to defend breaking the rules. 2.1 is there for a reason.

[Awha]

"You on the other hand want to punish people retroactively for something SE was made aware the moment the rule changes were announced. " I have no idea what you are trying to say here. Are you just trying to slightly twist what is being stated to make your narrative sound better or are you simply not understanding what I am saying? Our stances are not different at all, and yet you are trying to make them sound like they are, for what reason I am not sure, other then pointing out I do not like it and explaining why. SE states rules before the new wards go in effect, people exploit the rules, one person even explained here how you do it, so that is wrong, plain and simple, and Alleo said before such actions is rule breaking. I am not sure what your objective is trying to say we are saying different things.

They gave an official statement:
https://youtu.be/BJwPCxau7CA?t=334

Yes you are right, I am very upset with SE, I am very upset they are not taking action on someone posting how to exploit the rules, why you think I am here to begin with? SE not babying the player base is not an excuse to defend breaking the rules. 2.1 is there for a reason.

Correct me if I am wrong, you want SE to punish those that used the loophole to bypass the one FC per account rule right? I am saying that is unfair, SE should make a statement that moving forward they will be punishing players that are caught using the loophole. Since the fact is SE knew was warned about the possibility, and did nothing about it, so players should not be retroactively punished for SE's inaction up until the moment the decide to take action.

[Paladinleeds]

Correct me if I am wrong, you want SE to punish those that used the loophole to bypass the one FC per account rule right? I am saying that is unfair, SE should make a statement that moving forward they will be punishing players that are caught using the loophole. Since the fact is SE knew was warned about the possibility, and did nothing about it, so players should not be retroactively punished for SE's inaction up until the moment the decide to take action.

Exactly. They left the loophole open, they said "This is what we're doing to try and bridge this gap" but didn't say "We will punish those who abuse the loophole". Plus I don't treat YouTube as an "official source" for most of the playerbase. It will need to be on the lodestone (and thus the launcher) for me to count it. Note: I have one personal house on my account across all realms. As for FCs, I don't believe I am in any that have a house. They need an official statement telling people "Relinquish your excess housing or we'll start punishing" and then allow a say 45 day grace period for people to get it sorted (housing demo timer). Any that don't conform, then by all means start forcefully taking plots away (w/o recuperation if needed). But until then, no. That's just asking for a PR calamity.