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    Quote Originally Posted by Alleo View Post
    I want SE to at least go against those that hurt the community with their actions. Which people do, by buying houses (a limited resource) and selling it for way too much (which might even create more RMT money). That does not mean that it would be fine if they punish people for the smallest things but its their rules, so if they say that any kind of cursing is against their ToS then people simply have to stick to the rules. And if they say that since x day we wont allow reshade and wont turn a blind eye on parsers with streamers than it would be fine too because again its their game.

    So if they go and state that x will be punishable from 10 days in the future then nobody can complain because its their rules. And if they suddenly go very nitpicky about it then its also on them to do that. Again I want a clear (and if necessary strict) enforcement of their rules. Say what is fine and what is not and coach your GM in this..so that people on one hand wont be punished for telling others about parsers and their numbers while they all completely ignore all the top raiders and streamers..
    The same with housing. If you are against it then do something and they at least did it. But I am a bit surprised that this seemingly only stayed for a short amount of time..so maybe more outrage, more topics about this might give them enough reasons to finally enforce this forever.

    About grandfathered: I am not a fan that people were able to keep all the houses that went over the max amount but at least SE stated that these would be handled that way. So its clear that they did not want to punish them because there had been no rule against owning x houses. But then they changed the rule but only kept the technical part about owning just one FC house for a short amount of time. So is the rule itself still active or not? Are any of those homes that people got by account transfering while the rule was active not against it?
    I am not sure about Rogatum or if that was the intent, but the fact Awha said "They will not give you a straight answer, just accept it. " shows at least them expects us to fall for the red haring so they can pull out a stawman type debate to try to put less of a meaning of our argument or defeat it all together. I find it really offensive Awha said that, and further, implying how OliverB breaking the "Posting aimed to create a negative impact on the community or its members. " (forum posting rule) with their signature funny. I am not laughing, I do not find it funny to mock those harmed by these selfish actions and rule breaking.

    Your last question to them shows something key though, are they against that kind of rule exploitation? Just because people warned SE on that rule breaking that gives them an excuse to break the rule when SE could not close the loophole? I think it is wrong, not only it being clear to me that it breaks the ToS, but wrong on moral grounds too, as someone else pointed out, this is a prime example of tragedy of the commons.

    There is nothing we can do about "grandfathering" in houses, however there is a person here in this very thread that posted several times about how they exploited rules and violated rules (especially when they told someone about buying a house for a 100 M, and buying personal house over FC so it is easier to sell it off.) to help buy a ward out. I feel I need to remind to those that are confused that there is nothing we can do about with some people owning a lot of homes, on the other hand you shouldn't be posting about how to exploit the rules.
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    Last edited by Hamada; 07-15-2018 at 09:50 PM.