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    Hamada's Avatar
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    Aya Hamada
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    Arcanist Lv 74
    Quote Originally Posted by Awha View Post
    I am repeating myself since you do not seem to understand how retro actively punishing the playerbase for something said playerbase made SE aware of before the system went into place is unfair. You call it babying I call it SE not acting on feedback from the players. I do not believe in retroactively players. If SE wants to start enforcing their rules awesome, but players should not lose their plots because SE has decided that now they wish to enforce the rules. That is akin to asking SE to retroactively punish everyone that has used ACT due to a sudden change of heart on the part of SE. I did not play XI, but did the community make SE aware of the issue prior to the release of the content and did SE never make a statement acknowledging the issue and their stance on it?

    Also what would you do with players that have inherited FC houses on slt accounts due to inactivity within that FC? Should they be punished because they happened to be in a FC on an alt that died? How do you punish cases like that that whole enforcing the one FC per account rule for the "rule breakers"
    This is the FFXIV user agreement, the thing you check the box off when you hit next when you are making your account:
    http://support.na.square-enix.com/ru...2&tag=users_en
    Just because the player base sees a loophole is not an excuse to take advantage of it, right at 2.1 it states:
    2.1 Cheating and Botting. You may not create or use any unauthorized cheats, bots, automation software, hacks, mods or any other unauthorized software or hardware designed to modify the Game and gameplay. In addition, you may not take advantage of game system bugs and exploits during gameplay.
    Then note this:
    https://youtu.be/BJwPCxau7CA?t=336
    Then there is this:
    Quote Originally Posted by Vivi_Bushido View Post
    A house opened up next door to my FC on my server and I tried to give an FC member gil to purchase it but they were unable to because of the timer. While we were standing all over the placecard trying to plan our next move, some undressed miqo'te who was level 50 max, comes literally sprinting down the street, relocates instantly, and names their new house "My Ward, not yours". Not entirely certain what the message behind the name of the plot meant; but it was pretty obviously an alt with the intention to flip. That was two weeks ago and to this very day, the house has not been decorated. The same plot was later spotted on reddit for sale apart of an outrageous bundle deal requesting for 10 times the amount it was by default price just for relocation value. Yeah, it was a bit upsetting to see.
    Now of course we have to toss out the references of reddit and heresay. However, when you name the plots "my ward not yours" that alone fits 3.2, disruption. Naming the houses in that manner is basically admitting you are doing so to grief others. It is showing they want to own a ward for the sake of doing so, so others can't have a house knowing it is limited. Outside the ToS this also crosses a moral ground as well.

    Now the breaking 2.1 comes in play when a person flats out state they moved FC house from account 3 to account 2, this fills the requirement of 2.1, a loophole is another way of saying exploit. Also they stated they held housing as personal till they leveled FC to rank 6, they converted them because of:
    Quote Originally Posted by OliverB View Post
    That's always been the case though. Any smart person would get an FC house over a personal house. Having access to the workshop/airships/subs/wheel stand to prime FC buffs is a major capital gain on top of being able to retrieve the original cost of the plot since the next owner doesn't have to purchase the plot again.
    They flat out admitted the conversion was pure for reselling, since SE stated about the RNG timer on relinquish, they went out to convert their personals to FC. You are going to tell me this situation is perfectly legal with all the statements they stated, along with what is stated in the ToS, on top of what Yoshi-P said on reselling housing? Inheriting a FC from inactivity is a lot different then rapidly transferring FC house ownership to bypass a restriction and frankly converting personals to FCs that mysteriously happened after SE announced the RNG timer thing. I am sure they have logs of gil movement and other things to prove one thing or another. You very well know that last line of yours is an attempt to get off the subject to defeat a weaker argument. I want to post and explain why people should be doing the right thing, not finding loopholes to get away with something, when again there is 2.1 saying that is against the rules, so there is no defense in acting in this manner.
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    Last edited by Hamada; 07-13-2018 at 02:22 PM.