HoH feedback

[Vnolan]

I've already cleared HoH

I'd bet those arguing for no changes haven't really done it. Forget being in a party - even solo is a joke up to 60, but Yoshi-P said the challenging floors start at 30, so you must be making stuff up.

Next EX trial: After every wipe, you need to run a dungeon.

If they add the option to start later and you didn't want to use it, you wouldn't have to. This isn't PVP and there isn't a race. Isn't it a bit much to ask tens of thousands of people to spend hours upon hours doing faceroll content just to do the interesting stuff so...actually, I don't even know why anyone is in favor of it.

[HyoMinPark]

I'd bet those arguing for no changes haven't really done it.

Cleared it twice already, with a third save file going. Still don’t think anything needs to be changed with regards to the floor set-up. I think people should stop asking for changes just because they want everything to be done in 15 minutes or less, personally.

[Tsumdere]

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Lucky! All I ended up with after my run to 100 was one sack that held a Strength Materia VI. lol. My friend got the Jenga Tower though and YES you can climb up it to the top.

I'd bet those arguing for no changes haven't really done it. Forget being in a party - even solo is a joke up to 60, but Yoshi-P said the challenging floors start at 30, so you must be making stuff up.

I've cleared it. As well as PotD 200. It's fine as it is. One of my teammates is only off one day a week and falls asleep early while another is Swedish and wakes up at 1 am to do it with us. If we can do it, so can you.

[Reinha]

If they add the option to start later and you didn't want to use it, you wouldn't have to.

Exactly. I see many similarities between this and the no-fly argument (in WoW, but it has spilled here too). If you want to walk and take the long route, go ahead. But I don't see any legitimate reason to be against a faster or more convenient option for others to get where they want to be.

Most arguments against convenience just boil down to "it's possible to do without this feature so just put up with how things are now". That same argument (appeal to tradition fallacy) can be used against cross realm groups, the duty finder, the raid finder and even the party finder. "If you can't work something out with friends or shout in cities to get a group for a dungeon and can't find the time to walk to the dungeon entrance, you're not even trying." Sounds pretty silly in another context.

[Alleo]

I have an idea. Let's start from floor 99 so everyone is happy RIGHT? /s

I really despise this kind of attitude, they already made so many concessions on this content and STILL ppl complains, to the point it'll be made A JOKE and then ppl wil complain that the content is a joke too.

Maybe intead of hyperbole lets look at alternatives that still make it a challenge but still help...like 50/50. I ran 1-30 yesterday with an ingame friend (her first time) and she was pissed that its only 30 floors for casuals and that it also only 100 completely. If they had splitted the content at least in half and gave every side 50 floors it would feel less bad. (Especially since this game has more casual players than hardcore ones) Any boss after 50 in PotD felt harder than any boss up to 80. So why not include at least 20 more floors for the rest of the casual playerbase and let the others start at 51? If they then increased the difficulty after that it would be way better..because its still a breeze until at least 70 and the real hardcore part only starts at 81 anyway.

So no its already mostly a joke anyway. And yet if you want to go to the harder ones you still have to go through 21-30 and all the kinda useless ones between that and at least 60..

[Remedi]

You said it well this game has far more casual content than hardcore one, we don't need to cry out for any non casual content added to the game.
As I have shown you have the tools to do it, use them

[SinisterJoints]

But I don't see any legitimate reason to be against a faster or more convenient option for others to get where they want to be.

Sure, I have one for you. THAT'S NOT HOW THE CONTENT WAS DESIGNED, suck it up and either set the time aside or don't do it at all. ITS THAT SIMPLE!!! Stop sitting here begging for something that is already trivial, to be made even more trivial because .. "you don't wanna"

you people wont be happy until this is a mobile game.

Maybe intead of hyperbole lets look at alternatives that still make it a challenge but still help...like 50/50. I ran 1-30 yesterday with an ingame friend (her first time) and she was pissed that its only 30 floors for casuals and that it also only 100 completely.

There are no alternatives. Why should there be? This IS casual content!! Just because you (or your friend) don't want to set the time aside doesn't suddenly change that. You don't even need to do it all in one go I mean jeebus.

[Ryaz]

The only real change I'd make would be to reward a sack or two when you beat a boss (equal to whatever you get on those floors). People want to feel rewarded when they clear bosses.

[DracotheDragon]

The only real change I'd make would be to reward a sack or two when you beat a boss (equal to whatever you get on those floors). People want to feel rewarded when they clear bosses.

i have to agree with this one was unlucky though 70 to 80 with 0 hordes spawned (we found a pod on floor 85 and there was no horde at all) a single sack when beating boss 80 would be nice, since you don't even get a potsherd (and before anyone tries to hyperbole and say "why not give people the dodo " we get a potsherd as a reward for floor 30 the easiest boss honestly so why not get a little something for the harder bosses, not for every boss but staple bosses, 50 70 and 90, since those are proper checkpoints.

[ForctyusGold]

i am glad for HoH, because 50/60 roulette fill for DPS really quick but hunts are miserable , i think Eureka will be dead for next weeks before next patch