HoH feedback

[Ayer2015]

The past months you've been lamenting the lack of long lasting content in the game, this feels a bit a contraddiction to me

Long lasting content in terms of reward structures. The game does little to support long term rewards. The loot bags from a RNG perspective, i guess, fall into this category. Most of those posts were around gear and itemization within FF14; six month ilv periods with no scaleable content to continually challenge oneself or provide a feeling of character progression. Regardless, the original post has nothing to do with that.

[Remedi]

Long lasting content in terms of reward structures. The game does little to support long term rewards. The loot bags from a RNG perspective, i guess, fall into this category. Most of those posts were around gear and itemization within FF14; six month ilv periods with no scaleable content to continually challenge oneself or provide a feeling of character progression. Regardless, the original post has nothing to do with that.

And how you have long lasting rewarding structure if everything is done in 5 minutes exactly? Because this kind of behavior has gone for far too long in my opinion and it led to the current situation.

Jeez ppl are starting to say that 99 tokens for the mounts are too much.
When do we even draw the line? I wonder....

[Tsumdere]

No, its mostly just been people defending content with a 5+hr clear time.

Literally. You don't have to do the whole thing in one sitting.

[ImDingDing]

lol wat? Potd 50~200 require 7+ hours, HoH only needs 4.5 now. Sure everything should just get handle to you in a silver plant I guess~

[Fawkes]

Ugh I really wish Heaven On High let you enter at level 60. I want to do the new content, not have to go back and get 1 level in every level 60 job first. This seems like poor design. The crafting beast tribes don't make me level my crafters up a level first.

[Aster_E]

So my group got its Floor 100 clear today, after a couple of unlucky attempts. I still think half of the loot is really dumb, like orchestrion rolls that frequently drops from older dungeons that people still run... even on Platinum Hoards.

That said, I got the HoH Miniature, and pulled it out without putting it down (thus binding it). The thing's huge! My only question is if we can climb up it, but that would require actually putting it down and binding it. It's as wide as a house's doorway, and as tall as my individual cottage that I own. Does anyone else have this and know if it can be climbed along the outside jenga pieces?

[Tsumdere]

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Lucky! All I ended up with after my run to 100 was one sack that held a Strength Materia VI. lol. My friend got the Jenga Tower though and YES you can climb up it to the top.

I'd bet those arguing for no changes haven't really done it. Forget being in a party - even solo is a joke up to 60, but Yoshi-P said the challenging floors start at 30, so you must be making stuff up.

I've cleared it. As well as PotD 200. It's fine as it is. One of my teammates is only off one day a week and falls asleep early while another is Swedish and wakes up at 1 am to do it with us. If we can do it, so can you.

[Remedi]

You said it well this game has far more casual content than hardcore one, we don't need to cry out for any non casual content added to the game.
As I have shown you have the tools to do it, use them

[Alleo]

You said it well this game has far more casual content than hardcore one, we don't need to cry out for any non casual content added to the game.
As I have shown you have the tools to do it, use them

And how is it great for the hardcore crowd if they still have to go through all the easy useless floors? 50/50 and with the option to start at 51, they would get faster to the real hardcore floors, while the rest of us also has more floors and maybe even a larger story..in the end the hardcore crowd got Ultimate, will get Omega the next patch and they can still run this the ultra hardcore way by doing it solo (if you dont have DCs like me..) or with only another player.

There are no alternatives. Why should there be? This IS casual content!! Just because you (or your friend) don't want to set the time aside doesn't suddenly change that. You don't even need to do it all in one go I mean jeebus.

So why take over 100 floors away? I mean all those that complained that it was too much to reach the hardcore floors should have then just set enough time to clear it? Casual players lost 70% of the normal floors, while the hardcore crowd only lost 30%...if this is casual content like you said why take away the floors for the casual crowd? Why not just give people the ability to start higher up? Instead of having people to start at 51 in PotD, they simply could have given access to 101 for matched parties. This way hardcores could be faster towards their floors and the rest had their floors to run. The same with this one. The only hard part starts higher up, so why not raise the amount of floors for casuals and give hardcore players the chance to start higher too? What is there too lose?

Dont get me wrong. I have nothing against a challenge. But honestly as far as I got myself and also read on reddit, it seems that mostly 81-90 are the hardest floors, and it felt for others that those beyond 91 are easier. The bosses are all seemingly quite normal. Wouldnt it be better if they just released a couple of really hardcore floors, which can be only done in a four man party (thus take out the solo part) and which is really hardcore from start to beginning including the bosses? And have these start at the floors after you beat the casual parts?

I just dont see the fun in having to run most of the deep dungeon for the handful of few good floors..And that is coming from someone that is more casual and still went to 81 with a complete group of strangers.

[Remedi]

And how is it great for the hardcore crowd if they still have to go through all the easy useless floors? 50/50 and with the option to start at 51, they would get faster to the real hardcore floors, while the rest of us also has more floors and maybe even a langer story..in the end the hardcore crowd got Ultimate, will get Omega the next patch and they can still run this the ultra hardcore way by doing it solo (if you dont have DCs like me..) or with only another player.

Because the concept of the content is a gauntlet dungeon of prgressing difficulty, it's already enough they allow you to start from 21 (or 51). The concept was always that you had to start low to get to the end and it would become progressing difficulty. If you have a problem with the concept that it YOUR OWN PROBLEM.