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  1. #121
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    OliverB's Avatar
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    One account already had 9 houses on it. Some of them being personal houses that I relocated to secure the location and would later relinquish to transfer existing fc houses from another account in order to make it more manageable.

    You guys make it sound like I had a bunch of fcs ready to purchase new plots with. Which isn’t true. Even if I wanted to, there isnt enough ressources on the Market Board to level up a bunch of FCs in a two weeks window. Especially considering the new purchases were limited to FCs only during those two weeks.

    Ending up with 16 fc houses in the same ward hasn’t happened in a single evening despite what you want to believe.
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  2. #122
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    Sigma-Astra's Avatar
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    Soma Kagami
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    Quote Originally Posted by OliverB View Post
    One account already had 9 houses on it. Some of them being personal houses that I relocated to secure the location and would later relinquish to transfer existing fc houses from another account in order to make it more manageable.

    You guys make it sound like I had a bunch of fcs ready to purchase new plots with. Which isn’t true. Even if I wanted to, there isnt enough ressources on the Market Board to level up a bunch of FCs in a two weeks window. Especially considering the new purchases were limited to FCs only during those two weeks.

    Ending up with 16 fc houses in the same ward hasn’t happened in a single evening despite what you want to believe.
    Personally, I think you're missing the main point as to what people are angry with. It has less to do with (for some people) about the means in which you acquired said plots and more or less why you feel or think that you even need 16 FC houses to begin with. I mean, if you want to be chained and bogged down to the game on multiple characters and service accounts, that's on you. 3-5+ homes would seem like a chore to me, and 16+ is like a second full-time job.

    Owning 16 FC houses doesn't make you look any smarter or superior than the average player, it just makes some of us that own a FC house and personal home tilt our heads in confusion like "....why do that to yourself...?" kind of thing.

    /shrugs
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    Last edited by Sigma-Astra; 07-09-2018 at 09:09 AM.

  3. #123
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    Hamada's Avatar
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    Aya Hamada
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    Balmung
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    Quote Originally Posted by OliverB View Post
    One account already had 9 houses on it. Some of them being personal houses that I relocated to secure the location and would later relinquish to transfer existing fc houses from another account in order to make it more manageable.

    You guys make it sound like I had a bunch of fcs ready to purchase new plots with. Which isn’t true. Even if I wanted to, there isnt enough ressources on the Market Board to level up a bunch of FCs in a two weeks window. Especially considering the new purchases were limited to FCs only during those two weeks.

    Ending up with 16 fc houses in the same ward hasn’t happened in a single evening despite what you want to believe.
    It does not matter what you did for the other houses, the fact you said this:
    Quote Originally Posted by NotOliverB View Post
    Correct, I did have to transfer ownership from service account #3 to my service account #2, #1 already being loaded with 9 houses when they doubled the amount of wards. That restriction was dropped when they allowed anyone to purchase a house. You can now purchase as many FC houses as you want, just like it's always been aside from those two weeks where people could only relocate or purchase an FC house.
    violates 2.1. It does not even matter how many houses you did that for, for the houses you did do that on, violated the ToS.
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  4. #124
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    ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ lol
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  5. #125
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    Damn 16!? Lol I can barely keep up with my 5 plots.
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  6. #126
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    Cylla Lightfall
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hamada View Post
    That was different, there was no restrictions in place then. With this, they flat out explained how they got around the making purchases of FC houses when it was restricted to one FC house per account. Because they kept feeding FC houses to one account, being owned by 2 people or 1 does not matter, they where clearly bypassing a restriction, thus violating 2.1. Also as far as I am aware, they never came to the OF explaining how they bypassed or exploited some loophole.
    It should've never happened at all. Be it before or after the restrictions were in place.
    Yet like I said earlier, we can't hold the player base accountable for SE own fault in not putting the system in right or allowing loopholes. No matter how much a player(s) try to explain their behavior, they exploited something, knew they did, even admitted to it (like now also) and SE did nothing and thus why people so boldly come here and admit it out loud. No matter how you look at it, it was against the ToS then and it is now but nothing being done, not on SE end to stop it. Then again, as I pointed out before, it doesn't stop those who are buying new service accounts just for this reason. SE only fix to this problem at this rate is instance housing. Give FC's the wards, put tighter restrictions on them.
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  7. #127
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    Quote Originally Posted by OliverB View Post
    ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ lol
    It feels like...you've been clamoring for attention over this. Just by skimming through what's been said up to this point, when you made your first post, nobody really bothered to say anything to you - so then you made another post to attract attention of an issue that does irritate a lot of players. You don't see the issue with it, but a lot of people do.
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  8. #128
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    Sigma-Astra's Avatar
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    Soma Kagami
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    Quote Originally Posted by KaivaC View Post
    It feels like...you've been clamoring for attention over this. Just by skimming through what's been said up to this point, when you made your first post, nobody really bothered to say anything to you - so then you made another post to attract attention of an issue that does irritate a lot of players. You don't see the issue with it, but a lot of people do.
    I'm in agreement. But, it's not just this player, any player in particular that needs 5+ houses or more screams to me like they're an attention seeker and need that sort of thrill to get by in life. But, that can also honestly be said the same for the people with exuberant amounts of gil that wave it other people's faces or their high-end raiding gear.

    Actually, any player that uses something to put themselves on a majestic and holier than thou pedestal for the sake of incurring the anger, envy, jealousy, spite, etc of other players is an attention seeker in general. So, there we go, lol. They exist everywhere, just housing is probably the avenue that leaves the MOST evidence behind, I guess.
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    Last edited by Sigma-Astra; 07-09-2018 at 09:13 AM.

  9. #129
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    Tanuki Crash
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sigma-Astra View Post
    I'm in agreement. But, it's not just this player, any player in particular that needs 5 houses or more screams to me like they're an attention seeker and need that sort of thrill to get by in life.
    Having 20+ airships constantly running and bringing back materials is a massive advantage to any FC doing this. It isn't about attention, it is about being as efficient as possible.

    Plus, SE made it super easy for people to own multiple single character FCs. So blame SE for that mess.

    Not only did they create a housing system which can not support the larger servers (and only the larger servers as the medium and small servers still have plenty of houses) they created a system where only FCs can have access to a very lucrative part of the game (airships and subs).

    Instead of attacking this player, just implore that SE change how housing functions, give all players access to airships and subs, and move the workshop to the company barracks so there is no need to own multiple FCs.

    Whether or not you agree with owning multiple FCs, SE has already shown they will grandfather anyone currently owning a house or multiple houses into the new system.

    Remove the desire to own these FC houses, attacking the player on this forum only makes people look like jealous children.
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    Last edited by illgot; 07-09-2018 at 09:15 AM.

  10. #130
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    Quote Originally Posted by illgot View Post
    Having 20+ airships constantly running and bringing back materials is a massive advantage to any FC doing this. It isn't about attention, it is about being as efficient as possible.
    And what's exactly wrong with only owning the set amount of airships that you are suppose to own as a FC? Inconveniencing other players and preventing them from owning plots of land, if they have the money to do so anyways, is not efficient for them at the very least. It may be for you, but at the costs of what? Being selfish and greedy, I suppose? I mean, that's how other people are going to look down on you no matter what if you own more than the amount of which SE wants you to own anyways.


    Plus, SE made it super easy for people to own multiple single character FCs. So blame SE for that mess.

    Not only did they create a housing system which can not support the larger servers (and only the larger servers as the medium and small servers still have plenty of houses) they created a system where only FCs can have access to a very lucrative part of the game (airships and subs).

    Instead of attacking this player, just implore that SE change how housing functions, give all players access to airships and subs, and move the workshop to the company barracks so there is no need to own multiple FCs.

    Whether or not you agree with owning multiple FCs, SE has already shown they will grandfather anyone currently owning a house or multiple houses into the new system.

    Remove the desire to own these FC houses, attacking the player on this forum only makes people look like jealous children.
    And you are exactly exhibiting what I had said. I made an opinion that people needing more homes above the basic limits of which SE wants is selfish and in some cases, especially with the posts of a player waving it in the faces of other people, attention seeking. And immediately, you jump to name-calling by calling others "jealous children" as if that somehow condones your actions or other people.

    You can preach your "got mine, screw you" mentality all you want, by all means, but don't be surprised when people disagree with it and when they won't silence their opinions because you simply want them to.

    You see it as "jealous children" while we may see it as "greedy children", really, let's leave the name-calling out for the health of the discussion.

    Having 20+ airships isn't efficiency sake, it's money-making greed. The materia is random, and the materials it brings back are mostly for special walls and other luxury items. It's greed, plain and simple.
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    Last edited by Sigma-Astra; 07-09-2018 at 09:30 AM.

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