We need another Housing purge

[Cylla]

Maybe high pop people need to consider low pop servers if they really want a house. There's really nothing to do with a personal house besides play The Sims: FF14 edition and grow krakka roots.

Stop with the "high pop" server crap already. All your doing, just like SE, is using it as an excuse. Low pop, High pop, it doesn't matter. It a problem regardless. Even people on low pop servers are doing it, they just aren't noticed like the higher population servers.

[Divinemights]

Low pop, High pop, it doesn't matter. It a problem regardless. Even people on low pop servers are doing it, they just aren't noticed like the higher population servers.

What are you talking about?
It does matter.
There is simply no system can satisfy the Balmung with such monesteric size of population

[Skivvy]

There is simply no system can satisfy the Balmung with such monesteric size of population

Not true at all. SE didn't have to create housing as a finite source. Instanced housing is a thing in many games, and could work in XIV as well. As it is now, most wards, even on Balmung, are practically dead. What is the point of them? And even with instanced housing, there are ways to make it so you can still have neighbors and a hangout spot for your friends/FC members as seen in other games.

However, SE is just continuing to double-down on their shoddy housing system, and this is the result we get. Sure, the immediate issue of no available housing is currently just an issue for high-population servers, however, it's still a horrible system that should probably be overhauled. This is a subscription game, and it's pathetic that all players cannot have their own housing if they wish.

[NanaWiloh]

You must be daft, they literally just posted with 3 different accounts... Or did you not read the name of the poster at all??



Nobody is working around anything....you just don't understand the rules.



this has absolutely nothing to do with what is going on and im just baffled you even pasted this lol






FC buffs make no sense, literally. Most of us keen on fc workshops know exactly what you're are doing and why so stop pretending. But yes, I will agree. You don't need 18 houses.. period

What people like Hamada fail to understand is the FC leadership system>FC house ownership. FC's need to have a leader even if the player has other characters in other FC's with houses on the same world. The changes that were put in place during the last Ward expansion were temporary and gone now as well. The rules are now back to as they were where every character on your account can buy and own a FC house. But owning 18 houses is just crazy and not needed :P

[Enla]

Not true at all. SE didn't have to create housing as a finite source. Instanced housing is a thing in many games, and could work in XIV as well. As it is now, most wards, even on Balmung, are practically dead. What is the point of them? And even with instanced housing, there are ways to make it so you can still have neighbors and a hangout spot for your friends/FC members as seen in other games.

However, SE is just continuing to double-down on their shoddy housing system, and this is the result we get. Sure, the immediate issue of no available housing is currently just an issue for high-population servers, however, it's still a horrible system that should probably be overhauled. This is a subscription game, and it's pathetic that all players cannot have their own housing if they wish.

Not to mention it's a ticking time bomb if this game ever needs to do server merges. I know that's a long ways off and something no one ever wishes to think about, but what's SE going to do when they have to merge down servers and people happen to own the same plot on the servers affected? Normally I wouldn't be worried, but this game has such an epidemic of spaghetti code that I can easily see that as being a gigantic issue that either will require one person losing out on their plot, both for the sake of 'fairness', or just an entire reset of the wards to avoid the hassle entirely.

Frankly I don't quite understand the aversion to instanced housing. Especially since the one other game I've played that had FF14's system, LoTRO, had all the same problems we're having here. The only difference is that they could have hundreds of wards per housing area with nary an issue. But in fairness to FF14, LoTRO is exceedingly old and not very resource heavy, so that isn't necessarily a point deduction in LoTRO's favor. It still didn't stop wards from essentially being dead there however.

[OliverB]

I like how they use the other 2 accounts to cheer themselves on.
So by FC ownership transferring, they exploited that "loophole" and SE flat out says not to do so.

Sorry to shatter your little dream, but I was guided here by friends. They most likely upvoted my posts. I can start upvoting myself if you want, or I can even go back and upvote the posts you think I upvoted myself.

[Hamada]

What are you talking about?
It does matter.
There is simply no system can satisfy the Balmung with such monesteric size of population

The TC and everything being referenced in this thread has nothing to do with balmung. Why do you keep bringing that up? Cylla had a perfectly fitting comment, so I got no clue what you are trying to get at.

What people like Hamada fail to understand is the FC leadership system>FC house ownership. FC's need to have a leader even if the player has other characters in other FC's with houses on the same world. The changes that were put in place during the last Ward expansion were temporary and gone now as well. The rules are now back to as they were where every character on your account can buy and own a FC house. But owning 18 houses is just crazy and not needed :P

What you fail to understand is that there is a person posting here explaining how they exploited the system while under those restrictions. They obtained 7 houses unfairly because of this. They posted here explaining how they unfairly gained 7 houses with the restriction by having account 3 buy the FC house, then changing the leadership to each alt on account 2. Because 9 houses was gained prior to the patch, and the second account can have 2 legitimately, that leaves 7 houses gained due to breaking ToS guideline 2.1. The post they made in this thread, post number 84, is proof of that violation. Really shocked seeing someone post how they did a game exploit on official forums, thought I saw everything.

[Awha]

I am confused what rule is being broken here? I do not see it. Honestly what I see is someone using multiple accounts to gain an advantage which has always been a thing in MMO'S

[Hyperia]

Housing purge... purge... The Purge.... Just think of all the good the Purge does... wow, did my mind go places.

Imagine if they solved housing crisis via PVP… defend your house or loose it... It could be the new PVP mode!

Just kidding... just kidding /humor

[Hamada]

I am confused what rule is being broken here? I do not see it. Honestly what I see is someone using multiple accounts to gain an advantage which has always been a thing in MMO'S

http://support.na.square-enix.com/ru...2&tag=users_en
2.1 Cheating and Botting. You may not create or use any unauthorized cheats, bots, automation software, hacks, mods or any other unauthorized software or hardware designed to modify the Game and gameplay. In addition, you may not take advantage of game system bugs and exploits during gameplay.

I will explain this again, and you can look back on post 84 of this thread. They had to buy houses on account 3 for a FC, transfer that FC to account 2 to an alt. Once that was done, they used account 3 to buy a house for a different FC they owned, and transferred it over account 2. They did this to get around the restriction SE had in place. So because they where exploiting a loophole, it breaks 2.1 of the tos, what I quoted here. Why is this hard to understand? They gain 7 houses using this loophole, not all 18 are in violation but doing that act for those 7 are. (Based on what they said in this thread anyway, if we assume everything that is stated as fact)

Having more then one account for an advantage is not what I am commenting on, I am commenting how they exploited the game and explained on the OF in this very thread how they went about doing that.