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  1. #91
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    Dustytome's Avatar
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    Fox Briarthorn
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    Quote Originally Posted by OliverB View Post
    @dustytome

    Since your post was removed, I'll answer it regardless.
    Not my post that got removed.
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  2. #92
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    Wiccan026's Avatar
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    Cerryl Lorinth
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    Lamia
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    Red Mage Lv 80
    The one thing I know about the current housing rules is that it causes some servers to have issues where people claimed to want houses and yet tons of houses are still available.

    When I got my house I wanted on so badly that I didn't care what spot it was because I just wanted a house to have a house... and yet folks are upset now not because they don't have housing options but because they don't have the exact house they want... which is silly in my book.

    I get that the OP isn't quite the same issue but it does bother me that folks are acting like homes aren't available and they are. Granted on more congested servers it might be more of an issue but I'm on a standard server.
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  3. #93
    Player Tiaque's Avatar
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    Ceciliantas Drayce
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    Cactuar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wiccan026 View Post
    The one thing I know about the current housing rules is that it causes some servers to have issues where people claimed to want houses and yet tons of houses are still available.

    When I got my house I wanted on so badly that I didn't care what spot it was because I just wanted a house to have a house... and yet folks are upset now not because they don't have housing options but because they don't have the exact house they want... which is silly in my book.

    I get that the OP isn't quite the same issue but it does bother me that folks are acting like homes aren't available and they are. Granted on more congested servers it might be more of an issue but I'm on a standard server.
    They probably want a specific plot, yet its taken up by some guy who wants to resell it for 300M Gil or by a guy who grandfathered in and owns 10 houses. Who knows.

    All I know is, spite all the new rules, if their idea of fixing the issue is to add another ward then fine, sure, it will mean more players will have a chance at a home, but its gonna just keep fanning the flames, and it will eventually burn so hot and so bright it will entrance those wanting a house but cant due this, or that excuse to go on even worse witch hunts for players like OliverB to scream and cry out to put in some new feature or implement that will cost those players all but one house they own. Then more backlash will erupt then it just goes back and forth in circles until it finally settles somewhere and then......




    SE gives up and just puts in instanced housing.

    /golfclap
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    Last edited by Tiaque; 07-08-2018 at 09:31 AM.

  4. #94
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    uvuvwevwevweonyetenyevweugwemu's Avatar
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    Pa Lin'guine
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    TLDR; There are people with more time and money than any country's gdp combined. Sub games is not "immune" againsts P2W, it's just more visible on F2P. Have you no control, young man? /thread

    I don't like instanced housing but I'm also aware FC has no value in this game. Some FCs like to take entire ward to have this false sense of community value, same with people with both personals and FC housing. Their choice and they're right because the game allow it. For now, you can ignore it OP. Until SE understand the meaning of the word "massive" in MMO, there's not much players can do. They will always use the server limitation excuse when zone is instanced already.
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  5. #95
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    Cylla's Avatar
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    Cylla Lightfall
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    Goblin
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    Reaper Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Okamimaru View Post
    Sounds like we need to purge players not housing
    While I happen to agree sightly with this statement, it really not the player fault that SE built a system that greedy people could take advantage of. All they keep doing is putting stupid band-aid fixes in that aren't actually fixing the problem. In fact, in some cases, it making it worse like as we see here. Greed rear it ugly head and said person so bold to come to this thread and even just put it out there. And why are they so bold? Because they know there a slim chance that SE won't even act upon it or fix the problem.

    I agree, anyone who owns more then one house (one fc, one personal) per account should have them taken away. However, does anyone here think that will stop those who got the cash to burn? Nope. They'll just go and buy more service accounts and keep buying up houses. These people are really no better then RMT, maybe even worse to be honest. They buy up as many houses as they can and then throw it in the face of the community like, "HA HA, look what I have. 10 houses and you have none!" And they think their just the coolest people in the world when really just a ---, well you fill in the blanks there. I'll give you hint, starts with a "P" ends with "S".

    In any case, unless SE starts acting upon these players like Oliver, they'll be here rearing their ugly heads, waving their so called "achievement" of having 10+ houses. And you know all their really doing is crashing the market board. This I have no doubt of. If you ever wonder about the price of an item going down super fast, just look to the person who owns those 10+ houses. You'll find your answer there.
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    Last edited by Cylla; 07-08-2018 at 03:17 PM.
    "Everyone has something they hold dear, something they never want to lose. That's why they pretend. That's why they hide the truth. And that's why they lie."

  6. #96
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    Solarra's Avatar
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    Sylbritt Muscadet
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    Quote Originally Posted by NotOliverB View Post
    ...I did have to transfer ownership from service account #3 to my service account #2, #1 already being loaded with 9 houses when they doubled the amount of wards. That restriction was dropped when they allowed anyone to purchase a house. You can now purchase as many FC houses as you want...
    Having read more, I've changed my mind. If you can now purchase multiple FC houses the rules do need to be tightened.
    As to the actions described in the first sentence, surely that is an exploit? It goes against the spirit of the restrictions even if it was technically 'legal'.
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  7. #97
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    Light Khah
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    Quote Originally Posted by MaybeOliverB View Post
    I couldn't care less what lazy people think about what I do. If they truly wanted a house, they would have one.
    Are you posting with your own alt characters to give your own posts more likes? Like really?
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    Letter from the Producer LIVE Part IX Q&A Summary (10/30/2013)
    Q: Will there be any maintenance fees or other costs for housing, besides the cost of the land and house?
    A: In older MMOs, such as Ultima Online, there was a house maintenance fee you had to pay weekly, but in FFXIV: ARR we decided against this system. Similarly, these older MMOs also had a system where your house would break down if you didn’t log in after a while in order to have you continue your subscription, but this is a thing of the past and we won't have any system like that.

  8. #98
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    SinisterJoints's Avatar
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    Lunafreya Valentine
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    Jenova
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    Quote Originally Posted by Freyt View Post
    I completely agree with that, however:


    Clearly the effort that's been made here has been done with the current changes in mind, with just a single service account.

    .
    You must be daft, they literally just posted with 3 different accounts... Or did you not read the name of the poster at all??

    Quote Originally Posted by Hamada View Post
    They did not put all those restrictions for people to work around them:
    Nobody is working around anything....you just don't understand the rules.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hamada View Post
    2.1 Cheating and Botting. You may not create or use any unauthorized cheats, bots, automation software, hacks, mods or any other unauthorized software or hardware designed to modify the Game and gameplay. In addition, you may not take advantage of game system bugs and exploits during gameplay.
    It is a CLEAR ToS violation.
    this has absolutely nothing to do with what is going on and im just baffled you even pasted this lol

    Quote Originally Posted by Hamada View Post
    You cannot have people owning multiple homes when they make them so limited.

    Quote Originally Posted by OliverB View Post
    I own less than 1% of the houses on Gilgamesh, it's not like I own an entire city-state housing area. There's 7 active players in my FC. I use all my FC houses for an insane amount of tier 3 FC buffs. So yes, I think my actions are justified.
    FC buffs make no sense, literally. Most of us keen on fc workshops know exactly what you're are doing and why so stop pretending. But yes, I will agree. You don't need 18 houses.. period
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    Last edited by SinisterJoints; 07-08-2018 at 09:35 PM.

  9. #99
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    Pastahnak Popotonak
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    Maybe high pop people need to consider low pop servers if they really want a house. There's really nothing to do with a personal house besides play The Sims: FF14 edition and grow krakka roots.
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  10. #100
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    Aya Hamada
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alleo View Post
    Are you posting with your own alt characters to give your own posts more likes? Like really?
    I like how they use the other 2 accounts to cheer themselves on.

    Quote Originally Posted by Solarra View Post
    Having read more, I've changed my mind. If you can now purchase multiple FC houses the rules do need to be tightened.
    As to the actions described in the first sentence, surely that is an exploit? It goes against the spirit of the restrictions even if it was technically 'legal'.
    It is not legal, SE flat out says in the ToS:
    2.1 Cheating and Botting. You may not create or use any unauthorized cheats, bots, automation software, hacks, mods or any other unauthorized software or hardware designed to modify the Game and gameplay. In addition, you may not take advantage of game system bugs and exploits during gameplay.
    So they clearly explained here how they broke this:
    Quote Originally Posted by NotOliverB View Post
    Correct, I did have to transfer ownership from service account #3 to my service account #2, #1 already being loaded with 9 houses when they doubled the amount of wards.
    So by FC ownership transferring, they exploited that "loophole" and SE flat out says not to do so.
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