Housing relocation is crap!

[Cylla]

I think your all missing the point I'm making.
Just because I brought up losing my house doesn't mean I'm butt hurt over it. I moved servers, got another one. I could rarely give a flying f*ck. I didn't come here crying like the OP over the ordeal. I'm pointing out the fact that, it shouldn't be happening at all. Housing system is bad.

Nobody here has yet answered my question of: What other MMO take content away from it player base?

No, we're all focused on the, "Oh she lost her house, she's crying about it."

You know what, this is why I gave up fighting for fairness and a better system that everyone could have if they wanted it.
If you people would read, my first post to the OP was a lot like everyone else who replied with the, "To bad, so sad".
"Accept it or don't. This is how the system works." It doesn't mean that I agree with the way it handled or that the system is perfect as most of you like to rave that it is (lol).
I could give two damns about it. I have a house. May as well be like everyone else here.
"I have it. I don't give a damn if you don't or lost it!"

tl;dr
Don't give a flying f*uck about losing my house seeing as I have one again.
Housing system is bad no matter how you try to defend it.
Nobody answers the actual question
To much stupid from Nephthys to deal with.

I'm done with this.

Edit - @Jojoya - You said no game is able to meet the demands of it player base, I'm not even talking about demands. However, here something for you to chew on.
To my knowledge, and just for I.E - AION has a housing system, it supports all it player base. Wildstar, while never played it, I do believe support all it player base. World of Warcraft, in all areas can support it player base. This is just to name a few, so please, list off the one's that can't support it player base in content and feel the need to take away that content from you if you aren't sub to their game.

So what SE excuse? Oh right, it running on what seems like at least 10+ year old servers...

Oh yes, and let use the "find a different game to play if this doesn't meet up to your expectations." Heavens forbid that I enjoy this game and would like to see it get better. Yeah totally, guess I'll just go to a new game.. *rolls eyes*

But whatever, don't care anymore o/

[NephthysVasudan]

Emoraging/

If you didn't give a flying frak...you'd not have mentioned it in the first place.
And your question is irrelevant because you knew what you where walking into when you got your house in the first place.

As for the demo timer being removed while subscribed? I disagree.

Too many people buy a house and hold them hostage...its not fair to anyone else who want a house..especially on crowded servers such as balmung.

[Claviusnex]

Too many people buy a house and hold them hostage...its not fair to anyone else who want a house..especially on crowded servers such as balmung.

Hold them hostage? That's nothing more than a euphemism for someone not doing what others like with their house. If someone buys a house it is nobodies business what they do with it. As for the crowded servers nothing is going to fix that other than SE providing a housing system that can support all of the players that currently and in the future want to own a home. Instead of biting the bullet SE just sits back and watches the players fight among themselves over what band-aid might give one disgruntled player a house, buying more time for SE to ignore the issue.

[NephthysVasudan]

Hold them hostage? That's nothing more than a euphemism for someone not doing what others like with their house. If someone buys a house it is nobodies business what they do with it. As for the crowded servers nothing is going to fix that other than SE providing a housing system that can support all of the players that currently and in the future want to own a home. Instead of biting the bullet SE just sits back and watches the players fight among themselves over what band-aid might give one disgruntled player a house, buying more time for SE to ignore the issue.

If you care so much...then you can be bothered to spend 5 mins to sign in...walk into your house..and log off.
Problem solved.

Once every 45 days is not going to kill anyone.
You people are utterly amazing with your utter selfishness.

For the issues that are present...the system is still better off than it was before.

[Sotaris]

Hold them hostage? That's nothing more than a euphemism for someone not doing what others like with their house. If someone buys a house it is nobodies business what they do with it. As for the crowded servers nothing is going to fix that other than SE providing a housing system that can support all of the players that currently and in the future want to own a home. Instead of biting the bullet SE just sits back and watches the players fight among themselves over what band-aid might give one disgruntled player a house, buying more time for SE to ignore the issue.

Neph have a point though, housing is limited. Auto demolition serves a purpose, if you leave the game for more than 45 days you lose it. It's fair game.

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Damn someone is salty.

What other MMO take content away from it player base?

Can't say, havn't played other MMO since FF11 and took away inventory if you didn't play longer.

But i ask you AGAIN, how is it fair to rest of the player base that want house if you (in theory) bought a large or medium (since they are more in demand) and quit the game or were gone for a long period of time? It's not.

I never claimed housing is without it flaws but it much better than it was before. Were you even around for that?

[Jojoya]

Edit - @Jojoya - You said no game is able to meet the demands of it player base, I'm not even talking about demands. However, here something for you to chew on.
To my knowledge, and just for I.E - AION has a housing system, it supports all it player base. Wildstar, while never played it, I do believe support all it player base. World of Warcraft, in all areas can support it player base. This is just to name a few, so please, list off the one's that can't support it player base in content and feel the need to take away that content from you if you aren't sub to their game.

I don't play AION or Wildstar so I can't comment on those since I don't know how they work.

I do play WoW. It doesn't even have player housing so it's not relevant though if you want to press the point, Blizzard has taken away things from the player base even if they were subscribed and those items had no impact on game play that was being adjusted. Ask anyone who had gone to the effort of earning Keymaster back in Wrath just to lose it all when Blizzard decided that keys were not only unnecessary but they shouldn't even exist anymore and everything related (other than the instances) was stripped from the game as if they had never existed. Ask players who were partway through epic and legendary quest chains when those were removed from the game so they were left with nothing for their efforts other than worthless quest items for quests that no longer existed.

I haven't played LotRO in a couple of years so I don't know if it's changed since but if you didn't log in and pay the housing monthly maintenance fee (or failed to have enough game currency when it was due), you'd lose your house so another player could buy it.

The weird thing is that you keep refer to losing content just because you unsub. You're not losing access to housing system content just because you unsub for a while. It's not a one-time only opportunity and then you never get to do it again.

Apartments are still part of the housing system and you can't lose your apartment unless you specifically relinquish it. FC rooms are still part of the housing system and you can't lose yours unless you're removed from the FC or relinquish it. You do get a chance to buy a house again subject to availability on the world you've chosen to play on. The content is still there for you to participate in.

Have you lost items that you had acquired as a result of participating in the content? Yes, but that's a known risk of the system and you have the ability not to participate in the system if you object to such loss.

[Minerva-Redwater]

I like the relocation policy, gives the people the opportunity who were forced to buy crappy plots an opportunity to get a better one, you're just salty because your friend didn't get it tbh.

[Cylla]

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Alright, but I'm talking about things lost when you don't pay your sub. I've played it since BC, anything that I've ever gained in my time of playing, I have not lost or had taken away just because I didn't pay my sub. I can go years without playing, come back one day and still have everything I earned. Also, yes, you're right, WoW doesn't have housing unless you want to count the garrisons which gave it WHOLE player base one. In the end, still the same thing.

And no, we're just losing our houses for no reason other then because SE can't supply everyone like they -should-. Again, punishing it player base for their error in releasing/not fixing the housing system right.

As I said earlier, limits this, lack of resources that, we've at this point we've learned to accept that the housing system will always be unfair.

And as for having a chance to buy a house on the world your on.... lool you may wanna talk to some Balmung people about that. I knew better. I knew once I lost my large on there, there was no getting a house again. I'm not going to lose sleep over such things or sit at board for 18+ hours clicking in hopes of beating the people next to me or seeing someone come in and relocate. Yeah no, sorry. I did the next best thing and moved to a low pop server and got a house. Which everyone seems to fail at missing that point.

Beating the dead horse repeatly I'm going to say this one last time:
I have a house now - does not mean I still agree with the way the housing system is or think that it even near perfect. I'm not like most people who sit here going, "I have what I want, why should I care if that person can't get it."
However with that said, and first time I posted here - OP story kept changing about her friend knowing about how the system worked, then says she didn't know. Regardless, this is how it is and highly doubt with my lack of faith in SE that it ever going to change for the better or make it fair for all. So you either settle for what you can get and work your way to what you want, move to a lower pop server, or sit a board for hours praying nobody comes in and relocate.

End of that.

[Elamys]

Ask players who were partway through epic and legendary quest chains when those were removed from the game so they were left with nothing for their efforts other than worthless quest items for quests that no longer existed.

Hey, speaking as someone who had just gotten their Eye of Divinity when Cata dropped and removed the Benediction questline without warning, and still has that stupid thing sitting in their bank, that was a really dumb move on Blizzard's part too (especially when the tunnel where the quest happens is still there). Just because it happens in other games doesn't mean it should and let's focus on this game - no other content in the game is restricted to a finite amount of people like housing is.

But the bigger question I have is why some people seem so hell-bent on arguing against any possible improvement to the system. Could you sit there and say that not everyone should be able to access a house, and why? It seems that any time someone suggests changes to the system the response is to scream "go to X server" which is fine FOR NOW but it's not going to be fine forever because more and more servers are filling up on houses. If it can't support everyone, it's a broken system.