Quote Originally Posted by RiyahArp View Post
the player has to have good spacial awareness and resolve the mechanics in series.
This would be true on the initial few pulls, which is perfectly reasonable. After several attempts, if someone is still failing the same few mechanics, blaming it on anything but lack of effort often times comes across as excuses. Even at an increased speed, they remain the same mechanics people have already seen. And one person out of place will not kill you unless that single person is targeted.

Quote Originally Posted by RiyahArp View Post
Not everyone who does poorly is an idiot.
And nowhere did I say they were. You're putting words in my mouth. I cited a particular incident where someone failed the very first mechanic repeatedly despite being told how it work. He, instead, rushed in and pulled without listening. That isn't someone doing poorly because they're new. That is an impatience fool who couldn't be bothered to listen and wasted people's time. You'd see less of that if content actually forced you to pay attention far earlier. Leveling dungeons do a decent job of this. At least until the gear out-scales them, though the big pulls still hurt.

Quote Originally Posted by RiyahArp View Post
And they nerfed heavy thrust because they nerfed timers in general; timers dropping off were the biggest lost of dps for any dps class in this game, and drg in particular is very rigid in timing, even still in SB. And yeah, in HW dps classes sucked, managing 3 or more separate timers for dots and buff abilities sucked hard. if we had HW system with these fights it would be hilarious, people would lose so much dps simply because they couldn't refresh their timers that they'd complain.
First, they only reduced the damage bonus it provides not the timer itself. Secondly, they outright acknowledged the nerf was due to people forgetting to re-apply it. Keeping Heavy Thrust up should never have been an issue if you bothered to learn Dragoon's rotation. I was a novice back in Heavensward and learned the rotation through youtube and google doc guides. If I could figure it out and not have this issue, why can't someone else do precisely the same thing? Or do you actually believe I was born better somehow? No one is asking for Savage level dungeons or expecting top tier raid parses. They're asking for something with some teeth to it and a little competency.