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  1. #121
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    Quote Originally Posted by alimdia View Post
    Again those dresses have the puffy part begin under the waist

    The dress added in-game has the puffy part begins where your stomach is making you look like you either have a massive stomach or you're 8 months in pregnancy.
    Oh what's the big deal, it doesn't hurt every now and then to shake things up, geez XD
    As long as others (well some) like it, no need to fuss over it.
    (With this is mind, if the dress 'supposedly' make the character look 8 months pregnant or make them look fat, wouldn't the front bulk part of the dress stick out more than the back??)
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    Last edited by DreamAngel-Ren; 06-28-2018 at 03:01 AM.
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  2. #122
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    Quote Originally Posted by alimdia View Post
    Again those dresses have the puffy part begin under the waist

    The dress added in-game has the puffy part begins where your stomach is making you look like you either have a massive stomach or you're 8 months in pregnancy.
    There are dress designs from way back where normally the waist line falls at or just above the natural waist which can lead to the puff/hooping to start farther up. the fairy tale dress tries to follow those lines, however each race has slightly different body shape. so it will look good on some not others.

    And again its just a game. There's plenty of good and bad designs in this game. I've never understood the "omg you look pregnant in the dress". Clearly our in game characters are not and some dress/clothing designs are meant to start certain ways....just enjoy the floof if you enjoy the floof! It's my favorite dress by far on scale of floofiness and movement.
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  3. #123
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    Quote Originally Posted by DreamAngel-Ren View Post
    Oh what's the big deal, it doesn't hurt every now and then to shake things up, geez XD
    As long as others (well some) like it, no need to fuss over it.
    (With this is mind, if the dress 'supposedly' make the character look 8 months pregnant or make them look fat, wouldn't the front bulk part of the dress stick out more than the back??)
    I specifically avoided replying to your last post because you clearly enjoy the dress as it is and I didn't want to rain on your parade, I don't want to change your mind, but doesn't mean I'm gonna stop voicing criticism over its design in the thread intended for it.
    (For your side question, it does stick out a lot)



    Quote Originally Posted by silverlunarfox View Post
    There are dress designs from way back where normally the waist line falls at or just above the natural waist which can lead to the puff/hooping to start farther up. the fairy tale dress tries to follow those lines, however each race has slightly different body shape. so it will look good on some not others.

    And again its just a game. There's plenty of good and bad designs in this game. I've never understood the "omg you look pregnant in the dress". Clearly our in game characters are not and some dress/clothing designs are meant to start certain ways....just enjoy the floof if you enjoy the floof! It's my favorite dress by far on scale of floofiness and movement.
    If you don't want to see negative feedback I suggest not opening this thread then, giving this a pass is why gear design seems to be getting worse every patch, and not just mog station stuff.
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  4. #124
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    Quote Originally Posted by alimdia View Post
    If you don't want to see negative feedback I suggest not opening this thread then, giving this a pass is why gear design seems to be getting worse every patch, and not just mog station stuff.
    I don't even understand your response to my opinion to your opinion....

    Plain and simple not everyone is going to like everything, and not every item can work the way people want them to work. But in that same aspect, some people will like many things and are ok with some items not working and make creative adjustments around certain items.

    So in response to your "if you don't want to see negative feedback" which I never actually alluded too. I just said I never understood the "omg you look pregnant in that dress" I don't understand that logic in game or in real life with real life clothing.

    Edit: Looking back my response was to the puffy of the dress and the pregnant look of the dress of your comment. I still don't understand your response of avoiding negative feedback when I simply pointed out, there is more than one style of dress....and nowhere in either of our statements did we allude to gear design getting worse.
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    Last edited by silverlunarfox; 06-28-2018 at 03:46 AM. Reason: accidentally reposted as a post when an addition to this

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  5. #125
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    The high placement of the waist is definitely a big part of why the dress looks 'off' to me. It's not how that style of dress is normally shaped (either historically or by "Disney princess" designs) - the bodice is supposed to be longer and the skirt sits at the waist. Here, it sits just under the bustline and it changes the look of it a lot.

    I suspect (as someone suggested earlier) the dress was originally modelled for Lalafells, and to cut corners they reused that bodice shape and just resized the skirt rather than actually modifying the dress to fit the different character models.

    I photoshopped it to compare how it looks with a lower skirt placement:

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    whooops wrong part

  7. #126
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    Quote Originally Posted by alimdia View Post
    I specifically avoided replying to your last post because you clearly enjoy the dress as it is and I didn't want to rain on your parade, I don't want to change your mind, but doesn't mean I'm gonna stop voicing criticism over its design in the thread intended for it.
    (For your side question, it does stick out a lot)
    You go ahead and criticize to your heart's content. Even if this dress thread is made for criticism, good feedback can be allowed too.
    (If that's what you think ¯\_(ツ)_/¯)

    Quote Originally Posted by silverlunarfox View Post
    Plain and simple not everyone is going to like everything, and not every item can work the way people want them to work. But in that same aspect, some people will like many things and are ok with some items not working and make creative adjustments around certain items.
    ^^^ How I feel for this matter, thank you for this quote
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  8. #127
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
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    Wow! Your alteration looks 5 million times better.

    I wish we could just buy parts of the set. Still haven't seen much of that underskirt... which looks like the best part of the whole outfit as it's designed right now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
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    I would buy this dress RIGHT NOW if it looked liked your edited pic; nicely done~ ^w^
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    Quote Originally Posted by laurtias View Post
    Wow! Your alteration looks 5 million times better.

    I wish we could just buy parts of the set. Still haven't seen much of that underskirt... which looks like the best part of the whole outfit as it's designed right now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mysticales View Post
    Congrats... this just reminded me of Suikoden... lol Now THIS would indeed make an awesome set...



    I grew up on the Rose of Versailles so I would gladly wear that outfit (along with any of the narcissists really) as long as it kept its fluff.


    Quote Originally Posted by Theodric View Post
    It's also why I'm gunning for Hien's set to be added. Hopefully along with his hair and stubble...
    Hien's set (I don't believe it included his hair or stubble though, sorry) has already been datamined so its only a matter of time before it hits mogstation.
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