New Mogstation items: Faerie Tale Princess

[Alleo]

Anyways. Your version looks SO good! Would be a 10/10 buy.
It's rather sad and embarassing SE was not able to come up with this on their own. :x

It does look so much better and I am still a bit shocked that nobody at SE questioned if it might look a bit off..but hey they seemingly knew about the tail issue because they only posted a behind look from races without a tail...we really need a preview function in the mog station otherwise people will just buy it and afterwards see that it might not look the way they like it.

[Kacho_Nacho]

The high placement of the waist is definitely a big part of why the dress looks 'off' to me. It's not how that style of dress is normally shaped (either historically or by "Disney princess" designs) - the bodice is supposed to be longer and the skirt sits at the waist. Here, it sits just under the bustline and it changes the look of it a lot.

I suspect (as someone suggested earlier) the dress was originally modelled for Lalafells, and to cut corners they reused that bodice shape and just resized the skirt rather than actually modifying the dress to fit the different character models.

I photoshopped it to compare how it looks with a lower skirt placement:

Off topic: Great job with the photoshopping! Can you share how you did it?

Oh topic, I agree with your assessment that the fairytale princess gown was made with lalafell in mind. The bodice should have been lengthened as you suggest so the skirt sits on the waist. I wonder if we can convince the art dept to take a second look at the fairytale dress? For a mog station item, it should be and can be better than it currently is.

[Iscah]

Off topic: Great job with the photoshopping! Can you share how you did it?

Thanks!

I took two screenshots: one wearing the complete outfit and one without the actual dress, so I could see the character's body shape, and also the gloves and grey background.

In Photoshop I had three main layers - top to bottom:

• a cutout of the upper skirt and ribbons
• screenshot with the dress
• screenshot without the dress

And to put them together:
1. Put the two screenshots into Photoshop and duplicated the dress screenshot. Turned 'dress' and 'body' layers to hidden.
2. Skirt layer: used the Polygon Lasso tool (in small segments) to cut out the skirt, or rather to cut out and delete chunks of the rest of the image around it. Was left with just the skirt and some grey background.
1. Turned on body layer and moved the skirt into position.
2. Turned on dress layer and erased the section of the original skirt that was still visible, revealing the gloves and empty background of the 'body' layer. (I had to be careful around the gloves because it turns out they didn't line up quite perfectly - either from basic character animation or I accidentally moved it a tiny bit between screenshots)
4. Skirt layer: erased some bits of grey background around the ribbons where it was now overlapping the skirt
5. Dress layer: cut out and copied the thin section of undecorated bodice, and duplicated it a few times to fill in the gap. Did left and right sides separately, and also had to rotate the pieces slightly to line them up.

Unfortunately I didn't save the actual Photoshop file, or I'd post screenshots of the layers.

[Schan]

welcome to Roe problems. I hope enough people complain u_u

[Kacho_Nacho]

Thanks!

I took two screenshots: one wearing the complete outfit and one without the actual dress, so I could see the character's body shape, and also the gloves and grey background.


In Photoshop I had three main layers - top to bottom:

• a cutout of the upper skirt and ribbons
• screenshot with the dress
• screenshot without the dress

And to put them together:
1. Put the two screenshots into Photoshop and duplicated the dress screenshot. Turned 'dress' and 'body' layers to hidden.
2. Skirt layer: used the Polygon Lasso tool (in small segments) to cut out the skirt, or rather to cut out and delete chunks of the rest of the image around it. Was left with just the skirt and some grey background.
1. Turned on body layer and moved the skirt into position.
2. Turned on dress layer and erased the section of the original skirt that was still visible, revealing the gloves and empty background of the 'body' layer. (I had to be careful around the gloves because it turns out they didn't line up quite perfectly - either from basic character animation or I accidentally moved it a tiny bit between screenshots)
4. Skirt layer: erased some bits of grey background around the ribbons where it was now overlapping the skirt
5. Dress layer: cut out and copied the thin section of undecorated bodice, and duplicated it a few times to fill in the gap. Did left and right sides separately, and also had to rotate the pieces slightly to line them up.

Unfortunately I didn't save the actual Photoshop file, or I'd post screenshots of the layers.

Cool! Your instructions are crystal clear. Thank you!

[InkstainedGwyn]

The problem is that it looks like they took the empire waist and tried to merge it with a basque waist and it really just... doesn't mix. Empire can be beautiful (although it does trend towards the "maybe pregnant" look, although not if it's using the right materials) and basque can be beautiful but they should have stuck with one or the other.

[AmalahRose]

If SE change the dress for the bigger races please PLEASE don't change the lalafell dress. Skirts that sit on our natural waistline make us look very awkwardly proportioned sometimes, the higher waistline for us is perfect in my opinion.

[jameseoakes]

If SE change the dress for the bigger races please PLEASE don't change the lalafell dress. Skirts that sit on our natural waistline make us look very awkwardly proportioned sometimes, the higher waistline for us is perfect in my opinion.

The photo's I've seen make it look to me it was made for a Lala and then no one put the effort in to making it for the other races

[Duskane]

If SE change the dress for the bigger races please PLEASE don't change the lalafell dress. Skirts that sit on our natural waistline make us look very awkwardly proportioned sometimes, the higher waistline for us is perfect in my opinion.

They wont change the gear
And if you're worried about awkward proportion thats what lalafells are

[AmalahRose]

They wont change the gear
And if you're worried about awkward proportion thats what lalafells are

It's not all clothes that make me feel that way, just skirts that have a lot of volume.