Sexual harassment

[ShadowHunterrX]

The problem is kinda a double edge sword. Ofcourse you have *real victimes* of sexual harassment. But things can be made up very easy these days and because of these fakes the line of real and fake is thin.

But as someone who has been false accused of horrible things by someone ingame. Only because I rejected for not going out with her irl. This way the creep becomes the victim and the victim the creep. You cannot defend yourself and you will be judge to punishment without knowing. Because most things happend behind my back. I heard it months later and in those months I was on friendly terms with her. Still feel the result of it today.....

[Doozer]

The problem is kinda a double edge sword. Ofcourse you have *real victimes* of sexual harassment. But things can be made up very easy these days and because of these fakes the line of real and fake is thin.

You are aware that very rarely are accusations false, right? Sure there are some, but people don't usually accuse others of things like this because of the stigma and victim blaming that happens. There's no glory in accusing someone of sexually harassing or assaulting you.

And it's funny that people just say nothing can be done because SE doesn't have the power to do.... whatever it is they think we expect them to do. It's easier to shoulder the blame onto SE instead of admitting lots of us stand by and let sexual harassment happen.

Okay enjoy your abuse that you choose to embrace.

That "you" choose.

And that's....... a horrific statement. I'm actually kind of nauseous at the thought of someone actually believing people "choose to embrace" abuse.

[DDkiki]

You are aware that very rarely are accusations false, right? Sure there are some, but people don't usually accuse others of things like this because of the stigma and victim blaming that happens. There's no glory in accusing someone of sexually harassing or assaulting you.

And it's funny that people just say nothing can be done because SE doesn't have the power to do.... whatever it is they think we expect them to do. It's easier to shoulder the blame onto SE instead of admitting lots of us stand by and let sexual harassment happen.

I'd say its opposite - most accusation are false to gain something from it or ruin someone's life. You can look at gamergate and how all journos accused them in all possible sins in the world just to not get exposed themselves.

[Doozer]

I'd say its opposite - most accusation are false to gain something from it or ruin someone's life. You can look at gamergate and how all journos accused them in all possible sins in the world just to not get exposed themselves.

Oh, I thought you were done trolling. I guess not.

[Awha]

Oh, I thought you were done trolling. I guess not.

Maybe it depends on your background, I can tell you where I grew people use to make false accusations about their boyfriends. Hell I have seen some cases where dudes would claim their girlfriend cheated on them as a reason to explain the breakup, even if it was not true. Sure some of it was grounded in reality, but often times they would up play the situation to give it more impact. This is simply my anecdotal view of it, hell one of my favorite high school teacher was let go because our class made accusations about him. I have met people that lie about being deaf just to avoid using voice chat instead of just telling the group they do not feel like using chat. People lie about the weirdest things or the strangest of reasons.

[BillyKaplan]

Maybe it depends on your background, I can tell you where I grew people use to make false accusations about their boyfriends. Sure some of it was grounded in reality, but often times they would up play the situation to give it more impact. This is simply my anecdotal view of it, hell one of my favorite high school teacher was let go because our class made accusations about him. I have met people that lie about being deaf just to avoid using voice chat instead of just telling the group they do not feel like using chat. People lie about the weirdest things or the strangest of reasons.

Your examples are skewed because the latter is ultimately harmless and probably born out of that person's insecurities and anxieties, to avoid being peer pressured into joining the chat. Also, you yourself admitted it was an anecdotal example (and is still ultimately a form of abuse, mind, just from the other direction). No one said false accusations don't exist, but they are factually the minority.

[Awha]

Your examples are skewed because the latter is ultimately harmless and probably born out of that person's insecurities and anxieties, to avoid being peer pressured into joining the chat. Also, you yourself admitted it was an anecdotal example. No one said false accusations don't exist, but they are factually the minority.

Point I am trying to make is people lie, please do not misunderstand what I was trying to say. If something can factually be proven sure witch hunt away, but let us be real how many people honestly would be willing to wait for all the facts to come out before starting the witch hunt? As someone else mentioned someone should be viewed as innocent until proven guilty however, in this day and age it seems to be the other way around.

[BillyKaplan]

I'd say its opposite - most accusation are false to gain something from it or ruin someone's life.

The prevalence of false reporting is between 2% and 10%

Source

People aren't doing this thing for kicks.

[Doozer]

Source

People aren't doing this thing for kicks.

Thank you for a source on that. I knew that info was out there somewhere.

[jameseoakes]

I'd say its opposite - most accusation are false to gain something from it or ruin someone's life. You can look at gamergate and how all journos accused them in all possible sins in the world just to not get exposed themselves.

Everything I saw about gamergate made it look like a vile cesspit that attracted the worst of the gaming community.