Selling Ultimate Weapon Ultima Is Apparently Not Against the ToS

[Mavrias]

But what if they are only talking about the actual RMT runs? And not so much about the ones using gil?

me: im talking about those who want to have all run selling banned such as posts like this

Personally I don't like the idea of selling, even if it were through an actual in game trade. I think rewards should be earned. At the same time I think all rules should be followed, no matter how minor. I used to work in the pharmaceutical industry and this is how lot of rules worked, no matter how minor, you were to follow them all to the exact wording and very strictly without deviation. So my point was all rules should be followed, no matter how minor they seem. I just used your post as an example because it was the first example I saw, so the first I could use.

ya'll: but what about the rmt sells why are you supporting those?

also

@vhalior: "Firstly, I'd suggest looking up the definition of the word ego. You're misapplying the word."

Self esteem or self worth. Or pride. Im misapplying nothing.

[Dustytome]

Uh. I see an advertisement for the trading of real money for O8S clears. I want the seller who put up the PF banned because they are breaking the rules. Not difficult to understand.

GMs generally don't act on 3rd party data. Unless the PF states they're accepting real money for the run or that they're encouraging account sharing, it's out of the GMs' territory.

[Rubiss]

GMs generally don't act on 3rd party data. Unless the PF states they're accepting real money for the run or that they're encouraging account sharing, it's out of the GMs' territory.

It is fairly obvious that it's for RMT. It's a crossworld PF and you can't trade in any capacity in it. They advertise their discord because they want to talk off-site about the sale. The advertisement itself infringes on the rules.

[DDkiki]

There should special bar in PF for runselling. Make it Cross-world. But transparent, make it official. Prohibit any runselling outside of this PF bar. Warn and ban thoose who do it outside. Dont have price or ask for info in 3rd party programs. If you want not have problem with something - legalize it and control it.

[Awha]

It is fairly obvious that it's for RMT. It's a crossworld PF and you can't trade in any capacity in it. They advertise their discord because they want to talk off-site about the sale. The advertisement itself infringes on the rules.

Maybe they have a character on the server in question that has the amount of Gil needed. Talking off-site is not against the ToS, the advertisement itself does not infringe on the rules unless they added something regarding using a third party site to discus the details. These are the things GM's have to look for, I bet a lot of GM's would like to take action against these types of PF adverts, but they can only operate within the policy they are given. Now as players we know what is going on, but as a company SE does not have the same privilege they have to go based off what they can see within the game itself. I mean if they took outside information that means everyone that uses AcT would be pretty much be SoL.

[Rubiss]

Maybe they have a character on the server in question that has the amount of Gil needed. Talking off-site is not against the ToS, the advertisement itself does not infringe on the rules unless they added something regarding using a third party site to discus the details. These are the things GM's have to look for, I bet a lot of GM's would like to take action against these types of PF adverts, but they can only operate within the policy they are given. Now as players we know what is going on, but as a company SE does not have the same privilege they have to go based off what they can see within the game itself. I mean if they took outside information that means everyone that uses AcT would be pretty much be SoL.

Then why not advertise the price? Why do you have to ask for price on discord, purposefully out of the game's chat where it's logged? It's beyond obvious.

[Awha]

Then why not advertise the price? Why do you have to ask for price on discord, purposefully out of the game's chat where it's logged? It's beyond obvious.

It is obvious, but not explicit. GM's need explicit information to take action. Pretty sure everyone knows they are abusing SE policy about not accepting outside information, but the thing is that policy protects their entire raid scene. If they used outside info, they would either have to allow third party tools or ban players that stream, post screens with ACT up.

[Final-Fantasy]

There is an easy way to make dent in this obviously REAL MONEY TRADING trend, and that is to place a ban on advertising content sales in the Party Finder.

[Bourne_Endeavor]

It is fairly obvious that it's for RMT. It's a crossworld PF and you can't trade in any capacity in it. They advertise their discord because they want to talk off-site about the sale. The advertisement itself infringes on the rules.

More or less everyone knows this. Alas, until SE changes their policy or, at the very least, puts a halt to all the PF adverts, nothing will be done about it. They just don't care.

[DDkiki]

There is an easy way to make dent in this obviously REAL MONEY TRADING trend, and that is to place a ban on advertising content sales in the Party Finder.

SE just need to officially aknowledge sellings and classify and control them. And ban people for breaking rules.