Selling Ultimate Weapon Ultima Is Apparently Not Against the ToS

[Mavrias]

Well naturally the sellers should be banned. What kind of logic are you operating on? Do you not want to ban bots for spamming in towns?

Maybe youre not understanding what im talking about. You see an advertisement in PF for o8s clears going for 10 mil gil a pop.

You want the run seller who put up that PF banned because...?

[Rubiss]

Maybe youre not understanding what im talking about. You see an advertisement in PF for o8s clears going for 10 mil gil a pop.

You want the run seller who put up that PF banned because...?

Uh. I see an advertisement for the trading of real money for O8S clears. I want the seller who put up the PF banned because they are breaking the rules. Not difficult to understand.

[AppleJinx]

I doubt anyone who actually managed to legitimately cleared the content themselves would care about buyers so they certainly don't need you to care for them on their behave.

[Rubiss]

I doubt anyone who actually managed to legitimately cleared the content themselves would care about buyers so they certainly don't need you to care for them on their behave.

Missing the point. But even if I were to go along with your faulty logic, they also sell O5-O8S runs for real money as well as EX primals. I still care, so.

[Mavrias]

Uh. I see an advertisement for the trading of real money for O8S clears. I want the seller who put up the PF banned because they are breaking the rules. Not difficult to understand.

10 mil gil aint rmt. Thats my point. People who want all run selling banned are trying to get people banned because they dont want people to have the same items or achievements as them is my point.

[Mavrias]

I'm personally of the opinion that people can do whatever they want with their paycheck in a video game. Someone having a shiny weapon doesnt mean anything to me.

[ko_]

10 mil gil aint rmt. Thats my point. People who want all run selling banned are trying to get people banned because they dont want people to have the same items or achievements as them is my point.

But what if they are only talking about the actual RMT runs? And not so much about the ones using gil?

[Rubiss]

10 mil gil aint rmt. Thats my point. People who want all run selling banned are trying to get people banned because they dont want people to have the same items or achievements as them is my point.

People are paying upwards of $1,200 USD for Ultimate clears. I don't want people who use gil to be banned. They're dumb but they didn't break the ToS. RMT is against the rules and should be punished.

[Vhailor]

So, again, this is just an ego issue. And not, like, an actual gameplay issue.

Firstly, I'd suggest looking up the definition of the word ego. You're misapplying the word.

Secondly, everyone has the right to make purchasing decisions on their own internal set of metrics. It's rather arrogant and presumptuous of you to imply those metrics are silly, or of less value than your own. I'll be the boss of what impacts me, and how various concerns rank in comparison to gameplay issues.

Finally, in regards to the 'problem' SE needs to solve, it's not one of ego: it's one of enforcement. They've laid out terms that RMT is illegal. They've then laid out a ToS that presents giant loopholes allowing for it to exist, out in the open, without punishment. That is, by any definition of the word, a problem. Maybe SE wants to solve it by simply legalizing RMT, making it more official perhaps; maybe they want to solve it by closing the loophole. Maybe they want to just ignore it. But it's clear that people who value an RMT-free environment, are not happy about seeing it openly displayed without any action being taken on SE's part.

10 mil gil aint rmt. Thats my point. People who want all run selling banned are trying to get people banned because they dont want people to have the same items or achievements as them is my point.

That is not my motivating factor. I've explained what is. I don't even raid, so I couldn't give a shit less about someone having the same stuff that I do: lots of people will. My concern, hard though that apparently is for you to understand, is about having a sense of fairness in the game that I play, and a sense of detachment from the outside world. It impacts the immersion for me.

Incidentally, I've no issue with your perspective that people should be free to use their paycheck as they see fit within the games of their choice. You're welcome to that opinion. I vehemently disagree, but everyone can make their own decisions. Bear in mind, however, that you're playing a game that officially does not permit RMT of any kind. Any proper argument is therefore formed on that basis, and should be either an argument to change the ToS, or an argument to address the inconsistencies in the ToS. A product shouldn't waffle around and permit something while not permitting something.

[MicahZerrshia]

People are paying upwards of $1,200 USD for Ultimate clears. I don't want people who use gil to be banned. They're dumb but they didn't break the ToS. RMT is against the rules and should be punished.

I think if you are willing to pay $1200 for a clear on any content in a game like this you are already being punished...by genetics.