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    Quote Originally Posted by Aviars View Post
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    I agree a car has an objective material value, that goes beyond the name. We both agree that if someone calls a lambo a civic they should still pay full price. Now you feel your top 100 mount has objective value outside fact it was given as a top 100 reward. All the parts make it a lambo not just the name. Your top 100 reward is simply a brand the item itself has nothing special about it that makes it top 100. We cannot even say intent makes it unique, for all we know SE can be sitting on these designs and they just pulled a few out their ass and said this will make a good pvp reward. Every part of a lambo is made to be a lambo. Can you say the same? You did not say you can call a honda civic a lambo and charge people 500k for it, but that is more or less what you doing since nothing outside of the fact they were rewarded as a top 100 reward nothing else makes that item objectively unique to PvP or a top 100 reward. Can we really say the same for the car? Even if lambo never existed and you were pay 500 simply because they say it is fancy top line of sports car but looks no different then any other car on the street? Properly not, so why should those that want the item care that it was a top 100 reward?

    I mean the PvE rewards are based around the encounter at least they have that claim, the pvp stuff they could have easily just put them in the golden saucer and you would not be able to tell the difference if they were never part of pvp.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Awha View Post
    Your top 100 reward is simply a brand the item itself has nothing special about it that makes it top 100.
    Except the fact that it was made for only top 100 players and IS ONLY for top 100 players. Ya, apparently nothing else special about it. At least you admit hard value actually matters though.


    Quote Originally Posted by Awha View Post
    We cannot even say intent makes it unique.
    Except we have several blog posts stating otherwise that these items are exclusive to the top 100 and only available for the certain time period. We should just ignore it though I guess because you claim it just isn't true.





    Quote Originally Posted by Awha View Post
    I mean the PvE rewards are based around the encounter at least they have that claim, the pvp stuff they could have easily just put them in the golden saucer and you would not be able to tell the difference if they were never part of pvp.
    You would be wrong, are you going to argue the trophies were meant to be for different content? They were made specifically for PVP and as far as I can see they are the ONLY trophies in the entire game. You can also look at the season1 and 2 armor and see they were made specifically for The Feast. The theme for them is centered around the Wolve's den.

    I could go deeper but there really is no need to when your main points are "we should ignore words SE says" and "It's my opinion that these have nothing to do with pvp

    I will leave it at that for now, it's very late
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aviars View Post
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    I do not know would a player that just started playing be able to tell that the hell hound mount if they saw it on the golden saucer was once a PvP reward? I do not think so. In the end it just boils down to the fact that SE promised pvpers something, and they will hold on to that promise no matter how dead content gets. From the items I can currently see, I did not play in the early seasons all of them do not seem like anything screams this must be for PvP outside of where I got to buy them. Point remains SE has changed their mind in the past, and if they were to change their mind on this matter you sort of lose all objective value those items hold. That is what I am trying to say. Right now we should value SE words, I bet if they changed their mind and released a statement you would not be okay with that even though SE released a statement.
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