When everyone says no other rewards are time-gated they always forget about legacy status/1.0



When everyone says no other rewards are time-gated they always forget about legacy status/1.0
To be fair 1.0 was a different game, and such rewards were given to those that played said game so semantically speaking it was not FFXIV:ARR. So it is not really wrong to say that no other time gated rewards are in the game outside those that were attached to some outside promotional code or something. Though I would all be for having those items back in game.



3.x pvp was also entirely different than pvp now. To the point it doesnt even feel the same.To be fair 1.0 was a different game, and such rewards were given to those that played said game so semantically speaking it was not FFXIV:ARR. So it is not really wrong to say that no other time gated rewards are in the game outside those that were attached to some outside promotional code or something. Though I would all be for having those items back in game.


People don't want the game to change.... when it is convenient for them. When faced with a hurdle they feel they cannot hope to jump they either attempt to change the rules and make the hurdle lower or maybe even cheat in the end.
This is why it is so baffling to me. There is a extreme hatred in this game for cheating and rmt, rightfully so. Currently there is a huge scandle about Ultimate cheating and rmt. People getting rewards they either did not work for or cheated to make it easier for them. People are really upset about it.
So why we have people insist on making TOP 100 rewards available to everyone for nothing is beyond me. They are basically asking for SE to cheat for them. If people cannot get top 100 then frankly they do not deserve top 100 rewards period. The bar has been set. Either get top 100 for what you want or accept the fact that not everything in this game is made for you, pretty simple.
Even as we speak, SE is going to reward top teams in Light Party with Fanfest tickets to play in championship tournament being held at Fanfest. Are people going to now demand that SE put fanfest tickets in the gold saucer cause it is only fair? I sincerely hope not.

Before we going on I would like to say your point of view does seem fair, and understandable. With that being said not factoring in emotion or desire why is it wrong to make items available for everyone for different reasons? Just wondering.So why we have people insist on making TOP 100 rewards available to everyone for nothing is beyond me. They are basically asking for SE to cheat for them. If people cannot get top 100 then frankly they do not deserve top 100 rewards period. The bar has been set. Either get top 100 for what you want or accept the fact that not everything in this game is made for you, pretty simple.
Edit: To save on posts and clutter I update this post with responses.
I understand that nor am I pretending otherwise I am simply asking you without factoring in emotion or desire what is wrong with making the items available to everyone for different reasons.People demanding these rewards for nothing is all emotion and desire. The see something they can't have and want. So they make demands. Don't act like the people who make these threads are doing it out of some pure principle. They see something that they might want and when they realize they can't have it, make thread and demand it for nothing. Plain and simple.
Last edited by Rogatum; 06-24-2018 at 03:41 AM.


Threadly reminder that as a legacy player most of us don't care about our tattoo and trash items. This stuff should of been in the game anyways. Most of us don't even agree with s/e's logic to let us keep our progress during the transfer anyways. It was unfair and they should of just let us have our names be in the credits and leave it at that. The exclusive argument also took a huge nose dive the day they added the Goobbue mount to the Sylph dailies anyways. There really is no point or reason for them to honor legacy status anymore. Heck you can still buy promo codes from 1.0 and they'll still work if you enter them in Mogstation enough times. I'm sure you're quite familiar with it.
Last edited by Gospel; 06-23-2018 at 02:18 PM.
Before I say anything, I just want to say that this is my opinion and not directed towards anyone. Also, some of you will get offended by this, so please know that I do NOT mean this in a malicious way:
To me, it seems like those that want to keep rewards exclusive are those that have no real accomplishments in real life(though, I'm sure nearly all of those will try to dispute it). As someone that has played this game since early access of 2.0, I find it completely ridiculous that desirable rewards are locked behind some of the worst(if not THE worst) content in the game. No one is saying make them easy to obtain, just give them a way TO obtain them. You kids that hate the idea just because you want to feel special really need to take a step back, take a deep breath and realise that in the grand scheme of things, it's just a game, let everyone have a chance at having things that would make their gaming much more enjoyable to them. I mean really, to say no to this is sad an petty.


So you start off your argument with a baseless ad hominem? The armchair psychology is real.To me, it seems like those that want to keep rewards exclusive are those that have no real accomplishments in real life(though, I'm sure nearly all of those will try to dispute it). As someone that has played this game since early access of 2.0, I find it completely ridiculous that desirable rewards are locked behind some of the worst(if not THE worst) content in the game. No one is saying make them easy to obtain, just give them a way TO obtain them. You kids that hate the idea just because you want to feel special really need to take a step back, take a deep breath and realise that in the grand scheme of things, it's just a game, let everyone have a chance at having things that would make their gaming much more enjoyable to them. I mean really, to say no to this is sad an petty.
Regardless, why should people who don't get top 100 get access to said rewards? Should bronze players in say Overwatch be entitled to a top 500 border around their name? Because you know it's just a game right, why deny people shiny things if they want them? To people who say "it's just a game" are you going to tell people that cheating and rmt don't matter? It's just a game right? Nothing matters here.
The double negative seem to me like you wanted to say that you were not saying people to feel the same as you rather than what you actually typed. This is why we never get anywhere. Because you try to say someone isn't wrong then proceed to say they are wrong. You are trying to convince me that if I thought in the correct way like you, that I wouldn't care about anything just like you.
If you actually realize that my line of thinking is not wrong like you claim, and ALSO believe that people RIGHTLY have negative feelings against cheating/rmt despite you not caring about it, if you actually were not intent on making me "feel" just like you, then you would not constantly respond with the same soundbite telling me that "Only you can belittle your achievement." You would say it ONCE and leave it at that. But here you are doing it again, trying to change my mind. I am not going to agree with you. And you repeating it will not somehow change anything. Hopefully you figure that out.
Last edited by Aviars; 06-23-2018 at 03:10 PM.
If they put in just as much effort but maybe in a different way, yes, they absolutely deserve the same rewards.
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