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    Oh good, ranged DD and Debuff..

    It's good to know Yoshida plans to ruin Red Mage as well..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiote View Post
    Oh good, ranged DD and Debuff..

    It's good to know Yoshida plans to ruin Red Mage as well..
    Who said anything about a red mage?
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    Quote Originally Posted by PrettyPrincess View Post
    Who said anything about a red mage?
    Yoshida is pulling all his classes from Early Final Fantasies. Red Mage is the Debuffing Mage, nobody can dispute that. They also used to be versed in Cross-bows. But they have always been better with Swords.

    It really is a shame that he has this obsession with reviving Archaic Mage Loadouts. The glaring deficiencies are going to be painful to watch in action. An MMO where you can't survive without every class.. That should be fun.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiote View Post
    Red Mage is the Debuffing Mage, nobody can dispute that. They also used to be versed in Cross-bows. But they have alwas been better with Swords.
    I quite honestly don't recall any of that being Red Mage staple in any Final Fantasy other than XI. They weren't enfeeblers before it and I sure as hell don't recall cross-bows. Not even in XI.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lionix View Post
    I quite honestly don't recall any of that being Red Mage staple in any Final Fantasy other than XI. They weren't enfeeblers before it and I sure as hell don't recall cross-bows. Not even in XI.
    Quote Originally Posted by PrettyPrincess View Post
    red mage has never used a cross bow.

    red mage has never really beeen THE debuff class. That only ever happened in XI. Red Mages are known for their mix of white and black magic
    Red Mage has always been proficient with Cross-bows up until they were removed. XI is the only true appearance of RDM that wasn't. White Mage was also proficient with Cross-bows. But just like it would be in XIV, Cross-Bows were not effective in combat for a half breed mage. It just doesn't work right. Especially in a game like this where you half to manually fire and scroll through all of your spells in the same bar.

    Red Mages have always had the ability to learn Half of the White Magic and half of the Black Magic. Both of those halfs included All of the enfeebling magic.

    Up until XI Red Mage was the Front Line Mage. XI attempted this but failed simplly by allowing the RDM to feed tp to the enemy. A very simple problem to get around.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiote View Post
    Red Mage has always been proficient with Cross-bows up until they were removed. XI is the only true appearance of RDM that wasn't. White Mage was also proficient with Cross-bows. But just like it would be in XIV, Cross-Bows were not effective in combat for a half breed mage. It just doesn't work right. Especially in a game like this where you half to manually fire and scroll through all of your spells in the same bar.

    Red Mages have always had the ability to learn Half of the White Magic and half of the Black Magic. Both of those halfs included All of the enfeebling magic.
    That is wrong WHM used a bow in a few FF and RDM always used either a sword or dagger or rod, and RDM have never been Debuffer's more like half white/ black mage. BLM usually had the most debuff's tho mostly useless.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiote View Post
    Yoshida is pulling all his classes from Early Final Fantasies. Red Mage is the Debuffing Mage, nobody can dispute that. They also used to be versed in Cross-bows. But they have always been better with Swords.

    It really is a shame that he has this obsession with reviving Archaic Mage Loadouts. The glaring deficiencies are going to be painful to watch in action. An MMO where you can't survive without every class.. That should be fun.
    red mage has never used a cross bow.

    red mage has never really beeen THE debuff class. That only ever happened in XI. Red Mages are known for their mix of white and black magic
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