We now have a buffing class called brd. So we will get better buffs to counter act the debuffs. Also we have combos that inflict some of these debuffs. so its not lost just different.


oh, do we now have that, i thought that cam out in 3 months, anyway, im begining to think you haven't looked at class reforms. bards will not fill the whole that mage reforms will have.
i was referring to combining all three into 1 class as a joke, gandm got it, good job grandmWe are not gonna get another Melee thats completely NOT balancing the game. You had a point with another mage over thf but now your lost if you think a thf over Mage or pet class.
Last edited by syntaxlies; 12-08-2011 at 03:03 AM.

Yes, actually. In fact it would still be more ballanced if they added a thief class instead. Because while the need for a debuffing mage is great, at least a thief wouldnt take us anymore into a negative and crazy ballancing nightmate like a pet class. Pet classes will always end up being one of 2 things: 1. OverPowered or 2. Completely Useless. I definately dont want and overpowered class, but what even worse is creating a completely useless class. I have seen this in a few games, and its disheartening to let people raise a class with the false assumption that they will be able to contribute to Endgame and be needed. Im sure people remember Beastmaster from FFXI? The one class that was always shunned by endgame content. The only time it wasnt was when Beastmasters got together and made an all beastmaster EGLS. And before anyone says it, yes its all about ENdgame and no the journey doesnt matter at all.
Wow... man so SMN , PUP and BST was useless? right i see what you did there............dot......Yes, actually. In fact it would still be more ballanced if they added a thief class instead. Because while the need for a debuffing mage is great, at least a thief wouldnt take us anymore into a negative and crazy ballancing nightmate like a pet class. Pet classes will always end up being one of 2 things: 1. OverPowered or 2. Completely Useless. I definately dont want and overpowered class, but what even worse is creating a completely useless class. I have seen this in a few games, and its disheartening to let people raise a class with the false assumption that they will be able to contribute to Endgame and be needed. Im sure people remember Beastmaster from FFXI? The one class that was always shunned by endgame content. The only time it wasnt was when Beastmasters got together and made an all beastmaster EGLS. And before anyone says it, yes its all about ENdgame and no the journey doesnt matter at all.

SMN was ok in special situations, for the most part durring my 8 or so years of FFXI we never used them unless absolutely no other class could fill the role, and we never ever used PUP or BST. So yea maybe useless was harsh, I meant almost useless. Better?
after giving it some thought i would like to see
thief
pet
caster.
i think the game needs
caster
pet
thief
(BOOOOOO)
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