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  1. #91
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    Risvertasashi's Avatar
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    Makani Risvertasashi
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    Ultros
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    Another Lighthouse story. Except I didn't go in as a healer, but as paladin. We got to construct 7. For some reason, of the 2 other warriors that MT'd the previous fights... suddenly both decided they didn't want to tank. BLM in my party ate the first tankbuster, so I dropped to tank stance, provoked, and tanked for the rest of the fight. Went more or less smoothly from there.

    Except at the end some guy meme-macros complaining about the off tank pulling, calling me a grey parsing shitter among other things in those block letters.

    Like healing at times, it feels like you just can't win.
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  2. #92
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    Azbroolah's Avatar
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    Atticus Macalistar
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    Faerie
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    White Mage Lv 80
    Was levelling my SCH in Bardam's Mettle today and loaded in with a tank in all level 60 gear. "Okay," I think, "he's probably new. We can take it slow and make it through."

    Without saying anything, tank starts out with single pulls, which is good. However, even with only 2 enemies he loses enmity on both of them every pull. "That's alright, he's still learning. I'll just hold back on DPS and focus on spot healing the guys who pull aggro," I think. Then, before the second boss, he double pulls the biggest packs in the dungeon. I burn 3 Aetherflow (Excog and 2 Lustrates), Largesse, Rouse, two Emergency Tactics, many Adlo, and finally eat Eos in an unsuccessful attempt to keep him alive (meanwhile the BLM is in single target rotation, but whatever...). I say "I don't think you're tanky enough to double pull that," prompting the following exchange.

    Tank: "No, you just suck at healing."
    Me: "Well, I used all my CDs and ate the fairy too, there's not much more I can do at that point."
    Tank: "You're a fairy, you [homophobic slur]."
    Me: "Okay, whatever..." thinking we can just move on and clear.

    We make it through to second boss single pulling.

    Tank: "See, half health with only two enemies," and a hugely insulting homophobic sentence I can't repeat here.
    Me (trying to stay cool): "It's better for me to use GCDs on DPS if you're not going to die,"
    Our NIN: "Why are you calling him out for bad healing if you can't even hold enmity?"
    Tank: "I'll show you ****ing [homophobic slur] not holding enmity."

    At this point, the NIN and I votekick him for harassment and say something to the effect of "why was he being such a jerk when he was so bad at tanking himself?" The BLM (who in retrospect probably queued with the tank, as they were from the same server) says we're even worse than the tank and drops party.

    We refill the ranks and clear, but good lord. I've never had a worse experience in this game -- I actually had to stop playing and do something else.
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    Last edited by Azbroolah; 06-21-2018 at 01:46 PM.

  3. #93
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    Makani Risvertasashi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Azbroolah View Post
    We refill the ranks and clear, but good lord. I've never had a worse experience in this game -- I actually had to stop playing and do something else.
    Yeah... would be nice if leveling dungeons had a minimum ilvl. Wait till you get a 60 geared tank in the level 69 dungeon...
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  4. #94
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    Atticus Macalistar
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    White Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Risvertasashi View Post
    Yeah... would be nice if leveling dungeons had a minimum ilvl. Wait till you get a 60 geared tank in the level 69 dungeon...
    Honestly I think my biggest issue with him was his insinuation that ending a trash pull with the tank at half health is an indication of bad heals :P
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  5. #95
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    TalithaSolarien's Avatar
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    Talitha Solarien
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    Odin
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    Bard Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Risvertasashi View Post
    Yeah... would be nice if leveling dungeons had a minimum ilvl. Wait till you get a 60 geared tank in the level 69 dungeon...
    You don't need that advanced gear in these dungeon, that is if you know how to play your class. I leveled my PLD mostly in Augmented Shire gear from 60-70 (with a few drops I got from other dungeons). It's just that you need to know what you can tank with that gear and please, please use your cooldowns and tank stances in these cases.
    I've seen quite a few tanks who won't do that ...
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  6. #96
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    Normalizer's Avatar
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    Esmond Rainer
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    Odin
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    Scholar Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by TalithaSolarien View Post
    You don't need that advanced gear in these dungeon, that is if you know how to play your class.
    Yep, until that time (yesterday) when I get a lvl 65 DRK in lvl 60 gear (some i250/260, mostly i230 accessories, and 3 i200 left side pieces). Wiped at 2nd trash pull cause i didn't think his HP would drop that fast (i only checked his gear after wipe). The rest of the run was challenging to heal but actually fun when you have to actually heal. Mind you, it was lvl 61 dungeon. I really feel sorry to whoever healer need to babysit that tank through lvl 65+ dungeons.

    Yes you can do dungeon 60-70 with low ilvl gears, at the cost of your frustrating healer :P
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  7. #97
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    Ulala Ula
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    Shiva
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    Reaper Lv 90
    Just did a "quick" Level rouelt... got Vault... My tank and several jobs and ALL crafters on 70, but tanked in some lv 90, 36 and 115 NQ gear... was rly fun >_>

    When i asked him he said "lol not worth it crafting stuff on low level"...
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  8. #98
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    Driskus Blackstone
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    Coeurl
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    White Mage Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by TalithaSolarien View Post
    You don't need that advanced gear in these dungeon, that is if you know how to play your class. I leveled my PLD mostly in Augmented Shire gear from 60-70 (with a few drops I got from other dungeons). It's just that you need to know what you can tank with that gear and please, please use your cooldowns and tank stances in these cases.
    Honestly, if someone is past Doma Castle and still in mostly Shire (or even less, I've seen as low as i150 in Doma Castle) gear, they're asking to be called out on it. Even more so if they're a tank. The different in defense values between Shire & proper dungeon gear are huge. Not to mention they're probably going to lose mobs quite often if someone else has decent gear or is putting out good DPS.
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  9. #99
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    Calista Fallon
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    Coeurl
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    Bard Lv 100
    You can not pay me enough to heal pugs. I save my healer for friends, myself and if I am feeling charitable, Eureka to help rez and heal while capping tomes.
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    "Fanboy is gaming jargon used to describe an individual that has gone beyond the point of being a PC or console game fan and, during online chats or discussions, shifts to defend the program at all costs, unable to take any criticism or acknowledge any shortcomings of the game or gaming console."

  10. #100
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    Calista Fallon
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alrin View Post
    Kudos to you for that.

    One thing that surprised me in this game is that there is a lot more ppl willing to help and a lot less toxic ppl.

    I played SWTOR for more than 3 years so I am comparing it with this game. And i am not even talking about Empire side of SWTOR.
    I disagree. I played WOW over from vanilla launch for over 8 yrs, most as Dru heals main and I find this community to be the worst raid attitudes of any ever. I refuse to heal pugs and rarely run any on my dps either.
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    Last edited by Besame; 06-23-2018 at 09:12 PM.
    "Fanboy is gaming jargon used to describe an individual that has gone beyond the point of being a PC or console game fan and, during online chats or discussions, shifts to defend the program at all costs, unable to take any criticism or acknowledge any shortcomings of the game or gaming console."

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