Healer Horror Stories: Redux

[Driskus]

Regen is a GCD skill; so as good as it is, it's still lower priority than oGCD skills if you're trying to minmax your play. And, of course, there's plenty of downtime where no tank heals are needed at all. Chances are there are always ways to improve but... yeah, feel free to ignore someone that thinks you need 100% regen uptime.

This. Regen is definitely not something that needs to be up all the time. I frequently go long periods even in bosses without using it just because shields and tetra are so plentiful. I've even had a couple people go as far as telling me that Medica II is supposed to be up on them at all times. I just ignore them and do my thing. I'm only going to use that as an extra regen if they are absolutely going to hit the floor without it on top of Regen & Asylum.

[Cincierta]

Got a Sunken Temple of Qarn run the other night doing a roulette, had a 35 gladiator base tank that wouldn't use flash/bulwark buffs, would not hold hate, and did not pull hate back on himself up to the first boss. I also made the mistake of examining him and wondering why he was still in lvl 15 and 23 gear pieces. Surprisingly enough, no one else in the party said anything even though we nearly died when the tank tried to mass pull before the first boss. I asked him where was his paladin soulstone and no one said anything, and I felt as though I was being trolled by either a botter or cross-linkshell server friends.

I ended up asking to be kicked from the party, and I feel sorry for the healer that ended up taking my place for that run. I know what I can do as AST, but I knew I could not save that party.

[Brightamethyst]

Dear tanks,
This is a leveling dungeon. We're not 70 and massively overgeared. If you pull a huge group and use no CDs it's not my fault when you die. I'm good, but I'm not THAT good. Seriously, just stop.

I got kicked for this in leveling roulette the other day. Tank pulls big, uses no CDs, dies, and we wipe. I tell him the pull was too big, he bitches me out, and then instead of pulling smaller he does the exact same pull a second time, as if he expected different results. We wiped again and I got kicked. I feel sorry for my replacement.

[ArianeEwah]

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It still amazes me that solely healers get kicked when the tank is (really) bad.

Why in the twelve would I kick a good healer because the party has got a bad tank?
I am main tank myself, and I still don't understand how this is a thing. This is an MMO, everyone has to contribute something to the party. If they contribute too less or even hinder the party, it would seem logical to me to replace them. But why kick the person who actually knows what's going on? Are most people that clueless? Or do they fear not getting a tank replacement because they are rare? Heck, I don't even see bad DPS getting kicked!

In Cincierta's case it was probably the right choice asking to get kicked, they were most likely pre-made.

The same happened to me, too. Got a MRD lvl 29 in Haukke, their equipment was the eastern lady set... Their HP pool was lower than that of our lowest caster, normal adds just needed 2-3 hits to kill them, and they couldn't keep aggro for even 5s. After they died twice (2nd caused a wipe) I asked why they are wearing this low level set... to get more EXP ofc. I told them I am not willing/able to heal them in this state, and they should equip real tank gear. They didn't had ANY. Just like Cincierta, I asked to get kicked.

had a 35 gladiator base tank that wouldn't use flash/bulwark buffs

Bulwark is a level 46 ability, did you mean rampart and/or anticipation or defensive skills in general?

[Brightamethyst]

But why kick the person who actually knows what's going on? Are most people that clueless? Or do they fear not getting a tank replacement because they are rare? Heck, I don't even see bad DPS getting kicked!

Healers get blamed (and kicked) more often simply because healing is much more visible than tanking or DPSing. The DPS can't always tell at a glance if the tank is being smart and using CDs and dodging and stuff, just like the tank and healer can't always tell what the DPS are doing. Healing on the other hand is measured by big obvious health bars. When someone's HP drops it's very easy to blame the person who's job is to not let that happen, even if it's not their fault.

[Cincierta]

Bulwark is a level 46 ability, did you mean rampart and/or anticipation or defensive skills in general?

I meant rampart, was too tired and distressed to edit.

[DarkDaifuku]

So far I only see 2 kinds of horror...Or maybe I am just a bad healer, luckily I haven't seen much salty players yet.

1. Tank is squishy, really squishy, can be down to about half HP before finishing the pull. Forced to throw in benediction right before he/she stops or one hit from each mobs can kill him, and spam cure II to keep him alive, won't even have time to put in a regen because the HP keeps going down so fast. Happens a lot at the beginning of Stone vigil.

2. Ignore the mobs and let the healer handles them. Low damage mobs are fine, but all the hounds from Pharos Sirius...

[einschwartz]

I encountered this situation more and more frequently... I don't understand.
I know most tanks will click regens off while they're pulling so that mobs won't immediately run towards the healer. So I put regen after they're done pulling, and get myself ready for holy/gravity spam.... Only to find the regen is off shortly after and they're dying quickly. Why they do this am I missing something here?

I am aware if put Aspected Benefic as a Noct AST, the shield may be broken after a few hits (pls correct me if I'm wrong). I don't think it works the same for regen?

[Gemina]

I know what I can do as AST, but I knew I could not save that party.

I said this to myself the other night when I got Baelsar's Wall in roulette. It was only the second time I have ever said it, and only the second time I've abandoned a duty. Abandoning a duty is something I don't take lightly, and I have an insane tolerance for incompetence and bad play. But this group needed The Twelve. I kid you not. I wiped with them at the second boss four times before I called it a day.

I knew this boss was going to be an issue because we barely scraped by the first boss (they were all dead, and I soloed the last 2%). In short the second boss' Elemental Jammer ability made me think there were three geysers in the arena. Even though I explained the mechanic to them, they just kept getting hit by it and every other avoidable mechanic. I still might have stood around if not for someone having the audacity to make the asinine comment, "Can we get some heals please?" At the very least, it dispelled my belief that these players were being controlled by drunk chimps.

This group stood no chance against the Griffin because I knew they would never free me from his bind mechanic, and I refuse to lose to him.

[Rezef]

Joined an o7 normal from daily roulete and I was on my WHM. The tanks were heavily undergeared for this one with the DRK being with 300ilvl Armor and few 340ilvl gloves weap and 2 accessories. We started and the tanks could not hold aggro quite well as well as not knowing the fight. On the first wipe my co-healer started complaining and harassing the tanks. I waa trying to keep balances with no results. On the second pull the other healer decided to stay AFK throughout the second fight. Died. Used rez on him but he just wouldn't do anything. In the end we wiped once again and then he started asking to be kicked. A vote dismissal started but didnnot come to pass and therefore we were stuck there waiting for until he decided to leave. A new healer came and the run ended in success in the end though it was a bit rough.