So about Summoner...

[Wayfinder3]

And this problem will always exist so long as the community continues to have this mentality about numbers and blindly follow what we're doing without any reason to. You can make all the balance changes you want, no game will ever be "perfectly balanced" and we will always find an optimal comp. So as long as this mentality continues, the community will continue to blindly "exclude" any class that we do even though there's literally no reason for them to be doing so.

I'll be using percentiles as a way to sum up increments of player skill as it is convenient

I don't mean to be rude at any point through this thread to anyone, misguided or not but, Does anyone actually believe people created this or other threads like this because they decided to complain randomly. You can't say to the 99% that job balance doesn't matter to you but to only the 1% but, then suggest that if you want to in some cases, "play the game"(sam), you should switch jobs. The idea that only 1% of the player base can truly benefit from the capabilities of the jobs has always been weird to me. Things like Brotherhood and Disembowel are very much applicable to the 99% of this game because at what point do we draw the line between 1% and the 99%. is the 1% of the people who do cutting edge speed kills? what about those groups that do Parse runs with their mains and get like 95th percentile, or even 90th. not near the top, but far from the bottom. Im fairly certain any player that can get a 85th percentile parse or a solid kill time understand that utility exist and how to use it even if it isn't to it's best extent.

Answer me this, whats the difference between a 20th Percentile player, 70th Percentile, and a 95th percentile player, are they all in the 99% or is 90+ the 1%(where is the line drawn). are the 1% better at maximizing utility, absolutely i'd be foolish to deny that however, these are issues that do effect the experience of all players. Threads like these pop up out of fear of their job becoming obsolete or overshadow. Go look at how many people felt the new AST changes caused the sky to fall for WHM. Players get scared because they 1 trick jobs, it's normal for people to be attached to them, eydis only ever plays SMN and BLM and he's an amazing player if smn got nerfed or rdm got buffed too much, would it be wrong for him to complain or is he apart of the 1%. when is it ok for the rest of the player base to be upset with balancing choices. When can MNK and SAM cry out over dragoons sheer dominance that causes them to be immediately in competition with NIN and Trick attack. MCH mains are probably loathing the day disembowel gets gutted because they'll probably fade into BRD's shadow.

You came here and challenged how misinformed everyone was and to tell them that it's of no concern to them as the 99% because the 1% said everything is fine, but what im trying to get you to understand is that they aren't upset for nothing, they might be exaggerating but they are issues.

I'm sure you and i both know, it'd be impossible to balance around everyone's ideals however, WHM & RDM players are tired of being undervalued after prog, so regardless of what howard and jump say/said/think or anyone for that matter. thats a valid desire for them to have and there isn't anything you, me or, anyone can say about that.