Confused about people's obsession with open world raids/dungeons.

[TheFatHousecat]

Just because it is an open world dungeon or NM does not mean you're going to hit the open field in hopes of finding a group. rofl. If you do that you won't get anywhere man.

Bro I don't know about you but some of us are in LSs that do regularly scheduled content runs SO...

Seriously, every single example/situation/argument you bring up to oppose open-world content has already been refuted by a post three pages ago. I'm too tired to even bother re-hashing what's already been said.

[Tango]

Bro I don't know about you but some of us are in LSs that do regularly scheduled content runs SO...

Seriously, every single example/situation/argument you bring up to oppose open-world content has already been refuted by a post three pages ago. I'm too tired to even bother re-hashing what's already been said.

So lazy

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[TheFatHousecat]

So lazy

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Stop browsing the forums at work you deadbeat.

[WiiSam]

Bro I don't know about you but some of us are in LSs that do regularly scheduled content runs SO...

Seriously, every single example/situation/argument you bring up to oppose open-world content has already been refuted by a post three pages ago. I'm too tired to even bother re-hashing what's already been said.

Thats my point...you have an LS...wtf you need open world for to "run" into people as everyone is arguing for. "oh please guys leave open world so i can skip through the fields and run into another fairy to help me kill a squirrel!" That's what they want, and you running scheduled runs with an LS doesn't give that, so why do you care if the content is instanced or not?

[TheFatHousecat]

Thats my point...you have an LS...wtf you need open world for to "run" into people as everyone is arguing for. "oh please guys leave open world so i can skip through the fields and run into another fairy to help me kill a squirrel!" That's what they want, and you running scheduled runs with an LS doesn't give that, so why do you care if the content is instanced or not?

I never said I would 'skip through fields and run into fairies,' I have absolutely no idea where you're getting that from. I assume you're referring to what a lot of people said about being able to see people in broad daylight killing/being killed by NMs outside, in areas you can run right through while on your way to do a leve or something. It makes the world much more colorful and interesting to see battles happening in real time like that.

And as to what I quoted from you in that post, you STILL have to get a group together in the same manner to do instanced content. I don't see the difference between an instanced PUG and a open-world PUG except that it would probably be loads easier to get a group together for open-world content because you don't have a required member amount. Also, I'm fairly certain that the vast majority of people who play this game are members of an LS. And even if their LS is more social-oriented and doesn't do scheduled content, that still makes the creation of SB/EXP/NM groups easier because you have personal access to a group of people on a daily basis. SOME of them have to be willing to lend a hand, right?

Explain to me how you can't explore an instance? It'sa "new area" just like any you visit. That involves exploration. Don't be dense.

Today one of my LS-mates experienced glitch inside of the Bowl of Embers in which he could explore the entire area. You know what he found? Two or three caves that had invisible walls inside, and he couldn't look down the cliff because there was an invisible wall there, too. OMG SO MUCH STUFF TO EXPLORE HOLY SH*T.

[Coglin]

Thats my point...you have an LS...wtf you need open world for to "run" into people as everyone is arguing for. "oh please guys leave open world so i can skip through the fields and run into another fairy to help me kill a squirrel!" That's what they want, and you running scheduled runs with an LS doesn't give that, so why do you care if the content is instanced or not?

We do not have to explain to you why we care. Your a nobody. I will pay my money to SE, not you. Yet you think your so big you can sit here and tell us we do not need open world.

Your OP bashed open world and you clamed it is unneeded and unwanted, then you went on after the entire forums population stacked against your short sighted, narrow minded, simplton ideas, to claim you have changed you view slithly and were not totally against open world content.

If you think you can sit here and claim you know what we want, it is clear you sir are a lier of the highest caliber.

[WiiSam]

We do not have to explain to you why we care. Your a nobody. I will pay my money to SE, not you. Yet you think your so big you can sit here and tell us we do not need open world.

Your OP bashed open world and you clamed it is unneeded and unwanted, then you went on after the entire forums population stacked against your short sighted, narrow minded, simplton ideas, to claim you have changed you view slithly and were not totally against open world content.

If you think you can sit here and claim you know what we want, it is clear you sir are a lier of the highest caliber.

Take it down a notch brother. Nobody has given good reasons. The same way FatHousesomething said earlier that she is tired of repeating the same things over and over, that is how I feel. I am repeating my points over and over because you guys aren't getting it. For example, above, fathouse gave an example about bowl of embers and how it was boring to explore. THAT DOES NOT PROVE THAT YOU CAN'T EXPLORE AN INSTANCE. It is just one stupid room man. It isn't a a fully designed dungeon. Every instanced dungeon in WoW was amazing for exploration.

See what I mean? I keep having to rebutt you guys because you keep bringing nonsense up. Bowl of Embers is not an exampe of why instances suck. Bowl of Embers just sucks because the game designers decided they just wanted to give us a boss and not an entire dungeon. Just like a roaming NM, what is there to explore? You are just visiting ONE SMALL AREA WHERE THE NM SPAWNS, to kill it. And PLEASE don't tell me "but we get to see shit running on our chocobo on our way to the roaming NM!" You get to see the same shit on your way to the entrance of an instance.

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[Coglin]

I keep having to rebutt you guys because you keep bringing nonsense up.
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So says the liar who changes his stance from post to post. You claim your blathering nonsense as "rebuttle". You Keep spouting garbage about how open world is bad and instance is good, then when the posters reply with a logic of there perspective, you call it a lack of logic and tell them how they are wrong.

you are entitled to your opinion and I welcomed that right up to the point in which you insult everone elses opinion and splash every one of your post with childish profanity.

[WiiSam]

So says the liar who changes his stance from post to post. You claim your blathering nonsense as "rebuttle". You Keep spouting garbage about how open world is bad and instance is good, then when the posters reply with a logic of there perspective, you call it a lack of logic and tell them how they are wrong.

you are entitled to your opinion and I welcomed that right up to the point in which you insult everone elses opinion and splash every one of your post with childish profanity.

ok this is last question and i'm done: you really think and agree that the bowl of embers is an example of why instances suck and that they can't have decent exploration? Just say yes or no. Either way im done.

[Coglin]

ok this is last question and i'm done: you really think and agree that the bowl of embers is an example of why instances suck and that they can't have decent exploration? Just say yes or no. Either way im done.

I never once mention that instance in this entire thread. I bet your lieing about being done though, and continue to post your false propaganda further.

I never once claimed to be against instances, I like Darkhold and the AoE roaming, flying eye, as well as the ifrit raid. Both of which had a level of difficulty, but if processed well by controlled players could be sailed through smoothly.

I never said instances suck in any way shape for form, again you lie in an attempt to put words into another posters mouth.