Confused about people's obsession with open world raids/dungeons.

[WiiSam]

Did you play 11? Im not doing this as a snide comment or anything, but rather to convey by example of personal experience as to why I disagree with you.

I remember how much I hated sky at times(and pretty much the bulk of 11's content) due to the fierce competition. But that was also the primary addiction as to why I spent so much time at it. Its a love hate thing. Sure it sux getting owned, but when you get that trigger/coffer your excited. And when you got your Haidate, you were on top of the world. I cant find anything ever that has meant such satisfaction in a game.

My point is, if anything they need more of it. That was the charm of 11 that everyone can remember.

I understand that feeling but that's too intense today. I didn't play XI for too long, at level 50 thf I was strong enough to kill some dragonfly NM in...Dunes? He dropped emperor's hairpin, and with treasure hunter 2 I thought let's give it a shot. I camped him roughly 8 hours a day for 2 weeks. Only managed to claim him like 3 times and no drop.

Now some of you will say tough, but damn...I feel like I tried TOO hard and got shit. So I quit, not a rage quit, I went back to grinding but I gradually played less and less because everything was a grind. What kept me going was honestly exploration, XI is a BEAUTIFUL world. Other than that though, not my cup of tea.

[Lucifer]

>I didn't play XI for too long

Hoooo boy....

[Tango]

I understand that feeling but that's too intense today. I didn't play XI for too long, at level 50 thf I was strong enough to kill some dragonfly NM in...Dunes? He dropped emperor's hairpin, and with treasure hunter 2 I thought let's give it a shot. I camped him roughly 8 hours a day for 2 weeks. Only managed to claim him like 3 times and no drop.

Now some of you will say tough, but damn...I feel like I tried TOO hard and got shit. So I quit, not a rage quit, I went back to grinding but I gradually played less and less because everything was a grind. What kept me going was honestly exploration, XI is a BEAUTIFUL world. Other than that though, not my cup of tea.

So then stick to your instances and those of who want to compete for claims and camp NMs will do so. Nothing says you have to. If you were at all concerned with being the best player or geared out correctly I doubt you would have a problem with it. Yes, you have budged a little. But most of us on the open world camping NMs side have agreed that we need all sorts of content and you refuse to think letting us have content we enjoy is right. You know how dumb that sounds? You're basically excluding part of the player base. We want to camp NMs, we want fierce competition, get over yourself with this attitude of competitionis bad crap.

[Jynx]

What kept me going was honestly exploration,

And you want more instanced content? That pretty much goes hand in hand with not having anything to explore.

[WiiSam]

And you want more instanced content? That pretty much goes hand in hand with not having anything to explore.

Explain to me how you can't explore an instance? It'sa "new area" just like any you visit. That involves exploration. Don't be dense.

[Jynx]

Explain to me how you can't explore an instance? It'sa "new area" just like any you visit. That involves exploration. Don't be dense.

Exploration and "Visiting" are two different things. When I explore I can do it whenever I want, I don't need 7 other people or need to be a specific rank to enter the area.

You don't "Explore" a instance you experience the on rails ride the developers set for you.