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Thread: Tank Stance

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    Quote Originally Posted by SinisterJoints View Post
    there is no "meta" for any dungeon in this game. Don't kid yourself. Go in, do the job you went in as, and leave. THAT is the meta...
    You're right there's no meta because dungeons are extremely forgiving, if you want to practice something new (like, say, stance switching as a tank) you should be able to do so.
    If someone's level 67 they're almost at end game, where stance dancing will be expected of them, so there's nothing wrong with trying it at that point. I'd rather have someone not know how their job works in a Doma Castle run than in a Byakko EX party.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MoroMurasaki View Post
    No, you should not be doing this. Even in Sastasha you have Tomohawk or the PLD/DRK equivalent - that is what you are pulling with, not Overpower/Flash/DRK Aoething. It is literally not a thing. Stop misinforming people please.
    I'm not talking about pulling, I'm talking about keeping monsters on you when you risk losing hate.
    980 potency enmity for Tomawhak vs 1300 potency enmity for Overpower, for the same TP cost. So, yes, IF enmity is your problem, you SHOULD be doing this.
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    The devs would remove the DPS stance from tanks, if enough people ask for it (and decrease the damage for more enmity), but never the tank stance.
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    Last edited by Felis; 06-15-2018 at 01:51 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reynhart View Post
    I'm not talking about pulling, I'm talking about keeping monsters on you when you risk losing hate.
    980 potency enmity for Tomawhak vs 1300 potency enmity for Overpower, for the same TP cost. So, yes, IF enmity is your problem, you SHOULD be doing this.
    If you're pulling use our ranged enmity generator.

    If you're losing hate do your enmity combo.

    This isn't rocket science.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MoroMurasaki View Post
    If you're pulling use our ranged enmity generator.

    If you're losing hate do your enmity combo.

    This isn't rocket science.
    He means that, if you have trigger happy dps that don't diversion, you do something like... Tomahawk, then an Overpower.

    Because the first hit of your enmity combo has no enmity boost to it. If you know you don't need to overpower in that case and can just go right to enmity combo, then do that, that's better. If you have the scenario where the RDM is pre-casting a verthunder with no diversion right for the pull though, that helps.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MoroMurasaki View Post
    If you're losing hate do your enmity combo.
    This isn't rocket science.
    As stated earlier, the first hit of your enmity combo doesn't have enmity bonuses, so using one or two Overpowers is safer for additionnal initial enmity.

    Stop nitpicking when you can't think outside of the box...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jijifli View Post
    He means that, if you have trigger happy dps that don't diversion, you do something like... Tomahawk, then an Overpower.

    Because the first hit of your enmity combo has no enmity boost to it. If you know you don't need to overpower in that case and can just go right to enmity combo, then do that, that's better. If you have the scenario where the RDM is pre-casting a verthunder with no diversion right for the pull though, that helps.
    I suppose this is where my mean streak comes out - I'd let that RDM eat an auto attack or two

    Edit: and still Overpower or whatever wouldn't be necessary. There isn't a fight where you're going to have a RDM being that lax about enmity where the boss is opening with some crazy tankbuster. If someone wants to walk into Demon Chad and open without Diversion.... they deserve that death imo.

    Because, for what feels like the 11th time, enmity is everyone's responsibility.
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    Last edited by MoroMurasaki; 06-15-2018 at 02:01 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MoroMurasaki View Post
    Edit: and still Overpower or whatever wouldn't be necessary. There isn't a fight where you're going to have a RDM being that lax about enmity where the boss is opening with some crazy tankbuster. If someone wants to walk into Demon Chad and open without Diversion.... they deserve that death imo.
    But then, they whine endlessly during the content that you don't do your job as a tank. So, for my own sanity, I'd rather make up for their mistake.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MoroMurasaki View Post
    I don't want to be rude but maybe check your spelling and grammar before telling someone that they can't read.
    Nice retort, having heard this one in ages.... /sarcasm

    cohearent*
    epic fail. Don't you just hate misspelling. Thanks for setting this one up
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    Last edited by addz3; 06-15-2018 at 02:34 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by addz3 View Post
    Nice retort, having heard this one in ages.... /sarcasm
    epic fail. Don't you just hate misspelling. Thanks for setting this one up
    Do you plan to respond to the plethora of other ways I pointed out your stupidity or literally just nitpick one misspelled word?

    Oh wait that could add value and substance and clearly you're devoid of both of those.

    My bad, carry on.
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    Last edited by MoroMurasaki; 06-15-2018 at 02:40 AM.

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