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    Quote Originally Posted by Reynhart View Post
    I'm not talking about pulling, I'm talking about keeping monsters on you when you risk losing hate.
    980 potency enmity for Tomawhak vs 1300 potency enmity for Overpower, for the same TP cost. So, yes, IF enmity is your problem, you SHOULD be doing this.
    If you're pulling use our ranged enmity generator.

    If you're losing hate do your enmity combo.

    This isn't rocket science.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MoroMurasaki View Post
    If you're pulling use our ranged enmity generator.

    If you're losing hate do your enmity combo.

    This isn't rocket science.
    He means that, if you have trigger happy dps that don't diversion, you do something like... Tomahawk, then an Overpower.

    Because the first hit of your enmity combo has no enmity boost to it. If you know you don't need to overpower in that case and can just go right to enmity combo, then do that, that's better. If you have the scenario where the RDM is pre-casting a verthunder with no diversion right for the pull though, that helps.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jijifli View Post
    He means that, if you have trigger happy dps that don't diversion, you do something like... Tomahawk, then an Overpower.

    Because the first hit of your enmity combo has no enmity boost to it. If you know you don't need to overpower in that case and can just go right to enmity combo, then do that, that's better. If you have the scenario where the RDM is pre-casting a verthunder with no diversion right for the pull though, that helps.
    I suppose this is where my mean streak comes out - I'd let that RDM eat an auto attack or two

    Edit: and still Overpower or whatever wouldn't be necessary. There isn't a fight where you're going to have a RDM being that lax about enmity where the boss is opening with some crazy tankbuster. If someone wants to walk into Demon Chad and open without Diversion.... they deserve that death imo.

    Because, for what feels like the 11th time, enmity is everyone's responsibility.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MoroMurasaki View Post
    Edit: and still Overpower or whatever wouldn't be necessary. There isn't a fight where you're going to have a RDM being that lax about enmity where the boss is opening with some crazy tankbuster. If someone wants to walk into Demon Chad and open without Diversion.... they deserve that death imo.
    But then, they whine endlessly during the content that you don't do your job as a tank. So, for my own sanity, I'd rather make up for their mistake.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MoroMurasaki View Post
    If you're losing hate do your enmity combo.
    This isn't rocket science.
    As stated earlier, the first hit of your enmity combo doesn't have enmity bonuses, so using one or two Overpowers is safer for additionnal initial enmity.

    Stop nitpicking when you can't think outside of the box...
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