Tank Stance

[Sacred_Nym]

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Thing is, they don't. One aggro combo (or even one Onslaught) on single target, or two Overpowers/Unleashes/Abyssals/Flashes on groups in tank stance is more than enough to hold aggro against any DPS that uses their own aggro tools. These skills are that powerful for the express purpose of avoiding the situation of any player expecting DPS to hold back for any reason. Players that don't utilize these skills are simply throwing extra work on the tank for no benefit to anyone, and nobody wants that.

As for White mage, the only way I see a White Mage taking aggro is if they go overboard with Cure III, and most of those cases there's serious overhealing going on. Now if another player is expecting a White Mage to shoulder all that on their own is a bad player, full stop. It's no different than a player who avoids their aggro skills because "that's the tank's job" or w/e. In skilled parties that majority of healing is done by regens and Eos, and nearly anything beyond that gets planned out in prog Succor here, Medica II there, Lustrate there, Benison there, etc. In more casual content... there just isn't enough healing necessary for it to matter.

Plus in the absolute ABSOLUTE worst case scenario, Ninja's have Smokescreen.

[KaldeaSahaline]

This has probably been said a 1000 times but I'm going to say it again. I've just finished doma castle on the leveling roulette and have experienced some of the worst tanking in recent memory. The WAR would not use defiance for the last boss, and when I commented on that fact he says dps should use diversion!? Wtf. When both dps and healer are the top 3 enmity list maybe use the godamn tank stance. This is why you are here...

I would like to ask SE to take out the dps stance for group play. NERF the shit out of it so it's mainly for solo play like cleric stance back in the day. Before they increased enmity for tank moves this would of been more welcome but at least tanks would be.... err....tanks. Or just make WAR a dps.

Bring on the onslaught of pro dps for tanks, idc. Tanks should tank and not be worrying about dps. Save the rhetoric of dps = enmity and dps should manage enmity and all that. We've heard it all before.

I am a bit too busy today to read through all 15 pages, but I'll ask this:

1) Did you use diversion. A simple yes or no will suffice.

2) Agreed they should get rid of DPS stance. And Tank stance while they're at it. Stances are garbage binary toggle mechanics that should have stayed in 2004 MMO design where they belong.

3) Cleric stance was never "mainly for solo play" back in the day. It was always used to contribute damage, which good healers always did, even back in the day.

[Narangerel]

there is no "meta" for any dungeon in this game. Don't kid yourself. Go in, do the job you went in as, and leave. THAT is the meta...

You're not getting what im saying. It doesnt matter if you think there is no meta for dungeons. If there is a way to play a job or role it is going to be played that way regardless of the content it's being played in.