Things wanted for next expansion?

[Khalithar]

if they put SAM and RDM on level 60 any new player will be unable to play it until they reach lvl 60

There is absolutely nothing wrong with this, at all.

Imagine a scenario where you unlocked the jobs at top level and were able to immediately take them into endgame dungeons etc.

I'm not proposing new jobs start at the new level cap. I'm saying sam/rdm should have started at 60 and that those ten levels to get to 70 is more than enough to determine if someone is good or bad at it.

Also, you argument about people still being bad at endgame despite the levelling process existing is a bad one.

Except it's not, it's true.

You are essentially saying that because a beneficial system is lost on a few players that it shouldn't exist at all, when it does serve a good purpose, and creates a good base for potential learning, which is something that the game currently doesn't have enough of, let alone removing what we have.

Nope, I'm saying 60 to 70 is more than enough time to learn sam/rdm.

Ultimately there needs to be a balance between sufficient levelling time to get to grips with a job (the varies from player to player, those 10 levels could be a beneficial difference to some players) and not too overly long that the experience feels drawn out, padded, and endless to the point that people give up with it.

I assert, again, that the ten levels from 60 to 70 is more than enough to understand sam/rdm.

One thing I want to make clear however, is that I only assert that point because of how well designed sam/rdm are to just pick up and get the hang of compared to Drk/Mch/Ast when they first came out. If whatever jobs we get in the future are as easy to pick and play as Sam/Rdm are while still being rewarding to the people that really get deep in to it and master all the little nuances, there's no reason why the new jobs we get can't start at 70 if the new cap is 80, 80 if the new cap is 90, etc.