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  1. #61
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    Wish they would have released one of the two (Heaven or Eureka) with Ultimate next week. I know they probably have weapons comparable to the new EX weapon which is one of the reasons they are delaying it as to not kill the new EX primal so quickly since they have a history of doing this. (Waiting a month to drop other content/relic with same ilvl weapons as EX primal or better)

    They could have changed it up and added another set of accessories or something instead of a weapon and just add the weapon later. Accessory choices are really lacking. That way, we could either have Heaven for players who want to level alt jobs through there and 4 man content or Eureka for players who don't do Ultimate.
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  2. #62
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    Toki Tsuchimi
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    Anyone elae feel like this is mimicing American Idol, "stay tuned for the most shocking/exciting/surprising elimination yet". If all eliminations are (insert appropriate adjective here) are any of them? If all patches are "lackluster" are any of them?
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    I like helping people with their Job ideas, it's fun to help them visuallize and create the job they'd like to play most. Plus I make my own too, I'll post them eventually.

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    Ultimately I do find 4.3 was a disappointment mainly due to the fact they had been showing so much content in all the build up and trailers only for a majority of the content (heaven, Eureka 2.0, new ultimate) to be pushed back to 4.35 or later.
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  4. #64
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    I'll repeat what I said earlier about the greatest patch in history, 3.1.

    Guess what it contained, content wise? Thordan extreme, Void Ark, Vanu Vanu, 2 dungeons, like 4 MSQs, Verminion, and Diadem 1.0. 2 of those were dead on arrival, and beast tribes are apparently not content. So all we really had to keep us going until 3.15 (Anima Weapons) was literally just Thordan, and he was hard, not many people could even get to his first mini phase after the ultimate.

    The icing on the cake? The raiding scene was an absolute joke, Gordias was tearing statics apart and causing people to jump servers constantly. A3S walled people so hard they just gave up. It was a mixture of the content being way overtuned and gear gated, as well as people still adapting to the new complex rotations and strict timers they introduced with Heavensward. We needed a breath of fresh air with 3.1, we needed them to throw us a bone and give us something to do other than bash our heads against Living Liquid/Manipulator. They gave us 3.1. Not only that, but 3.1 itself was hugely delayed and didn't come out until the November since the staff took a holiday after the release of Heavensward, making the wait even worse.

    So don't even try and claim that 4.3 is anywhere near the most lacklustre patch to date, because you would be factually wrong.
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    Last edited by CorbinDallas; 06-05-2018 at 12:43 AM.

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    I did everything the patch had to offer in one day, now its back to weekly lockouts and grinding old content to level up other jobs. Gets kinda boring pretty quickly. They need to find a way to make content last longer, but really they are just making it very grindy and "daily".
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  6. #66
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    Remedi Maxwell
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    Quote Originally Posted by CorbinDallas View Post
    until 3.15 (Palace of the Dead/Aquapolis/Anima Weapons)
    Just a nitpick but palace and aquapolis were 3.35, 3.15 only had anima weapons .

    Though I would say that 2.0 release content was worse in the term of lasting effect and quantity, though one could say that the overall difficulty of progressing was hiding it well, not to mention the willingness of ppl of excusing that, but imho ppl should realize that the reason we'll get less than say 2.1 is that because the game was barren at the start many standard qualities for a MMO had to be added during 2.x series.
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  7. #67
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    Quote Originally Posted by Remedi View Post
    Just a nitpick but palace and aquapolis were 3.35, 3.15 only had anima weapons.
    My bad, Heavensward was all a blur to me. I guess that makes 3.1 even worse than I initially remembered. I'll edit my post to correct that, thank you!
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  8. #68
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    Quote Originally Posted by CorbinDallas View Post
    I'll repeat what I said earlier about the greatest patch in history, 3.1.

    Guess what it contained, content wise? Thordan extreme, Void Ark, Vanu Vanu, 2 dungeons, like 4 MSQs, Verminion, and Diadem 1.0. 2 of those were dead on arrival, and beast tribes are apparently not content. So all we really had to keep us going until 3.15 (Anima Weapons) was literally just Thordan, and he was hard, not many people could even get to his first mini phase after the ultimate.
    So how is that much worse than 4.3? (We are purely looking at 4.3 and not 4.3x)

    We have MSQ +side quest, one ex primal, one 24 man raid, one beast tribe, Doman reconstruction and another delivery quest. That is not much more than the original 3.1 had, especially since doma and the delivery quest are just weekly.
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  9. #69
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    It was much worse because the side activities were a failure and there was nothing else to lean upon, which is not the case now, also we are waiting for content while the only new content coming for 3.1 was a grind (which everyone knew about).
    Ppl that cleared gordias had nothing new for them aside thordan which btw didn't even had birds till 3.2
    You had to gear up by using tomestones since dungeon would require 170 ilvl, alexander too and void ark 175 as such you had no choice but run foreverreap for tomestones since also the new farming zone diadem was effectively garbage to gear up alts or new character.
    I could go on but I'd say this is enough, true most of the points can be traced to the fact that most of the side activities of now are not linked to 4.3 but this is all the worse for 3.1 imho because since it was coming 2 months late it HAD to have good content in it, which it didn't.

    Frankly as said 2.x and 3.1 were really the point of nothing for the game, but while 2.x can be said to be saved by 2.1 and onwards, you can't say the same for 3.1 which you needed to wait till 3.3-3.35 to get something else.
    4.3 true doesn't give nothing new but the foundations of the game are much more solid than before to the point I'll say this SB is a much better expansion from this point of wiew simply because the game is better foundation wise. I enjoyed HW very much but If I need to be unbiased I can't say that 3.0-3.3 was really that great. The only real goal that it had was the longass grind of anima weapon

    edit: Also let's not undersell how dungeopn gear is 345, not UCOB has perhaps the best choice of selection of gear that pve content has ever had

    edit2: btw I think that comparing 3.1 MSQ to 4.3 is a bit unfair, 4.3 mops the floor with 3.1 story
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    Last edited by Remedi; 06-05-2018 at 07:46 AM.

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    Well for starters the MSQ in 4.3 blows 3.1 out of the water. The trial is actually farmable by pugs unlike Thordan, and the 24 man is relatively challenging this time around. Not only that but there's actually more stuff to do in general. Crafters and gatherers got a bunch of new things to do aside from the Namazu, we got a new roulette which breathes life into dead content.

    4.3 is far greater than 3.1 in terms of substance, taking into consideration the dead on arrival Verminion and Diadem becoming Dino Island on day 2.

    Now let's look at the .3x series as a whole, even though you said no. What we got between 3.1 and 3.2 were the anima weapons, that's it, and were you around for that initial i210 step? It was absolute hell. In comparison we're getting a new ultimate encounter, another post 60 levelling method, and a new stage of Eureka. It might be delayed, but it's something.
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