Telling a player they should quit? Is that ever justified?

[KaivaC]

There are too many comments for me, and I don't think I'll be able to respond to all of them. I've read every comment, though, it'll just be a little difficult to respond to each and every one of them. Sorry about that.

Have you ever stopped and considered that you might be the antagonist? You've posted over a dozen threads with the same kind of antagonistic language, which all point to attention seeking (there is even a psychological name for this "Histrionic personality disorder") from the raiders.

I don't argue against parsers without reason, and this is specifically the kind of reason why parsers are bad. Until such time the developers of such tools implement a way to specifically opt-in through consent, instead of "opt-out" to being parsed, this kind of drama will continue. It only takes one person using it as bludgeon to make players upset. Upset the wrong person, and that person will be out for blood.

Whatever you did, certainly didn't justify deleting your character, and I assume that earlier instance of your avatar going missing was likely related. If players in the game do not want to be friends with you, then they are under no obligation to do so. If the people on the forum are telling you to stop being destructive to yourself, then they are not doing that out of malice. Any of the armchair psychologists on the forum can see that the game is causing you some kind of mental anguish, so if you think you need to leave the game, just take a break. Contrary to what some raiders seem to think, the game is not a git-gud competition. Either you're having fun, or you're not.

You are not chained to the game. If the game is making you have destructive thoughts, please see an actual professional, and don't use the forums/discord/reddit/etc as a way to gauge your mental health. Social media is bad for your mental health.

I know that you’ve been getting replied to directly, but I’ll add my own comments to this. First off, I’m not part of the raiding community per se as you might think it is – I like to raid, yes, but I’m not what you would consider part of them because I’m not good enough to be on their level. And we’ll just leave it at that – this is not a discussion about raiding, parsing, etc. But…I would like to know a little more about the ‘antagonist’ thing that you mentioned. I don’t really converse with others in-game, save for saying hello, farewell, discussing strats, admitting if I made a mistake, discussing strategy for a particular fight, and asking if someone needs help. Other than that, I generally do not engage in conversation with others in game unless I actually know them.

Thread really has nothing to do with my prior topics. Same with my main and discord – I had my reasons and I’ll leave it at that. The rest of your response…would really take away from the thread, therefore I am opting to not respond to them. That kind of stuff requires me to provide a reason for certain things, and I am uncomfortable with sharing those reasons.

Back to the topic on hand, as I mentioned above, I posted a general discussion. Some may see a trend with my discussions lately, but there is no trend with this discussion. Hence why I did not post any personal example to go along with the original post.

Yes, i have told at least 10 people to uninstall the game and don't play it again. Reason being they started raging and throwing tantrums over the smallest thing, to me that's a sign of mental instability, when a person is on that phase, you should not play games, instead you should find a way to deal with that issue first and then play the game.

And before someone asks me why i know that's a sign of mental instability, I know because I've been there myself a few years ago.

Fair enough. I do understand that part, I can attest to this in other game genres - Overwatch, in particular because of how...well, folks who play Overwatch know how heated it can become, especially during a competitive season. It's largely why I quit Call of Duty - too much rage when trying to compete at a higher level. You make some fair points.