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    Maeka Blazewing
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lunaxia View Post
    I've been told there's apparently no problem on Aether and Primal, and for that I'm glad. But I've also been called a liar, which I'm not. I did see a trend among the healers, less than two days after a patch that brought more changes to classes already fairing better in terms of efficiency and utility, despite being told there was no danger of it happening, and it's a trend I'm worried will increase.
    I don't like people name-calling, however there have been oodles and oodles of screenshots from different datacenters that is showing evidence to the contrary of what you are saying is happening.

    I don't condone name-calling, but at the same time, you appear to be making an issue out of something that's not actually happening.

    If people think I'm wrong, fine. But I take issue with saying "I'm making something up" or even trolling because it conflicts with their own experiences. I'm not taking back something I've seen with my own eyes to make other people feel better.
    If you say "I saw the sky! It was Tooty-Fruity!" and I look up at the sky and I see blue, then obviously the problem is not with the sky, but with your eyes. People in the thread have explained various reasons why it might LOOK like WHM is excluded (such as role lockouts because of people having those roles leaving groups, etc) but yet at the end of the day if multiple people pull up PF and there's a WHM in nearly every single one of them (as evidenced by the screenshots earlier in the thread) then how can I sit here and agree with you that there's a problem when all the evidence says otherwise?

    It is easy, and optimising for it is ridiculous, but it's been cropping up as I'd feared. WHM feels on thin ice because it offers nothing else but those no-frills heals, and they're typically not even necessary (in fact, you hope they won't be.) More WHMs generally feel shunted into AST or SCH for this reason, and that's another form of the problem.
    Broad generalizations and appeals to anonymity does not help your case.

    "More WHMs generally feel" .... how do you know? Did you conduct a poll? Where's the results of this poll?

    I am a WHM and I've been a WHM ever since ARR and I don't feel that way. Now, granted, I have been leveling SCH, but that's more because I'm a completionist. I'm leveling it because it's there. However, to be honest, I like WHM more.

    As for heals and whether or not they are needed, uh. I don't know what battles you've been doing, but the Sigmascapes and the Compass runs I've done in the last few days suggests that my heals are very much needed, as I've been spamming Medica, giving it out like it's candy. Now of course AST and SCH could do the same, but meh. I've not had anybody go "man, a WHM? I wish we had a SCH (or AST) instead". In fact, I've been in several groups with 2x WHM and we kick butt just fine. Nowhere near enrage timers, and wipes only happen when people screw up or insanely bad luck happens.

    You don't NEED party buffs. You can do just fine without them.
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    Last edited by Maeka; 05-25-2018 at 08:51 AM.