And so it begins again

[Lunaxia]

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I didn't say it's being locked out of the majority content, I said WHM is becoming irrelevant to the point of being excluded in certain scenarios once again, which is a valid concern to have with a class. "well it's still ok" isn't much consolation.

Regardless of how few you may have seen, the fact they exist is a problem. The balance is off when it's a case of guaranteed spot vs. "uhm fine I guess but can you change?"

ha

It is to satisfy you, as I've already stated I don't particularly care if you believe me or not. No amount of demanding "factual evidence" I'm not obligated to provide you is going to change what I've seen. As I've said, believe me, don't believe me, it's immaterial. Really, if you're so certain I'm lying, why does this concern you so much?

The groups cropped up with this patch, I'm assuming with the recent changes.

[Beelhi]

I didn't say it's being locked out of the majority content, I said WHM is becoming irrelevant to the point of being excluded in certain scenarios once again, which is a valid concern to have with a class. "well it's still ok" isn't much consolation.

Same thing, same meaning. It is not a valid concern because the few people that don't want to have WHM have the right to do so, it doesn't take away that none of us have seen WHM being excluded, with the exeption for a few parse-runs. If you want to talk about a class becoming irrelevant and left out in PF talk to a SAM, they had more issues than you believe WHM has now.
It is NOT a fact that it is a problem because then you would have people complaining about it here, reddit, and wherever. Meanwhile a majority of the parties i look at when i want to join something (current Sav/EX) already have a WHM in them.