First Time bonus - abandon?

[kidalutz]

Short answer: No they do not get the bonus if the First Timer leaves.

Long Answer:WTF has come over the community? I remember not that long ago people actually going out of thier way to be supportive and helpful of first timers? Is it because we got an influx of players form other MMOs? if So keep that kind of behavior to yourselves and spend a long time in introspection.

[Souljacker]

Short answer: No they do not get the bonus if the First Timer leaves.

Long Answer:WTF has come over the community? I remember not that long ago people actually going out of thier way to be supportive and helpful of first timers? Is it because we got an influx of players form other MMOs? if So keep that kind of behavior to yourselves and spend a long time in introspection.

Be careful about blaming other mmos. In fact, this community is one of the most toxic I've ever seen and that's even accounting for WoW at the height of its popularity circa Lich King. There's nothing special about this community that makes it the 'nice' one and all the bad people coming in are from 'other mmos'. Some of the WORST players here are the ones you click on and they have all jobs at cap. That's not someone from some other mmo.

That's a FFXIV native. Those are the players that need to chill out already.

[Fhaerron]

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^This

I'm someone that came from wow (12 years of playing that) and I've always read how amazing and nice the community is in this game, but all I see are complains and people angry and verbal abuse and whatnot.
I've been playing this since 2014 (with breaks) and I've seen mostly horrible people ever since.

Personally the best or nicest community I've been a part of was Guild Wars 1 back before GW2 was released and many bad ones joined that.

[HyoMinPark]

but all I see are complains and people angry and verbal abuse and whatnot.

I mean, if you’re going off of the OF, well that’s the OF.

I've been playing this since 2014 (with breaks) and I've seen mostly horrible people ever since.

I’ve been playing since Nov 2015 with only 1 2-month break, and I see more nice/silent people than horrible ones. Anecdotes are anecdotes.

[rabbitzero]

Be careful about blaming other mmos. In fact, this community is one of the most toxic I've ever seen and that's even accounting for WoW at the height of its popularity circa Lich King.

This simply isn't true, at all. WoW still has one of the worst, i can't go a day in that game without a racial or other biggoted slur tossed, much less being toxic to other players. I can go months without someone truly toxic here, and they seem to get dealt with pretty quickly.

[Akamadoshi]

Hello everyone, I do not think my thread is anymore relevant as SE has answered many pleads like mine to solve cutscene issue.
We can watch comfortably and accept the direct teleport into battlefield once finished. Thank you all for replying - it has solved this also!

[KaldeaSahaline]

This simply isn't true, at all. WoW still has one of the worst, i can't go a day in that game without a racial or other biggoted slur tossed, much less being toxic to other players. I can go months without someone truly toxic here, and they seem to get dealt with pretty quickly.

That is your opinion, which does not mirror mine. To say it isn't true implies you have actual empirical data that supports you case. Would you mind linking to it so I can review it?

I actually think this game's community is more toxic than WoW's because of what I consider toxic. You and I likely have very different definitions of what we consider toxic.

[CainCrimson]

WTF has come over the community? I remember not that long ago people actually going out of thier way to be supportive and helpful of first timers? Is it because we got an influx of players form other MMOs? if So keep that kind of behavior to yourselves and spend a long time in introspection.

Gamers are more impatient than ever before. No one has "time" for anything anymore.

[Luin]

Short answer: No they do not get the bonus if the First Timer leaves.

Long Answer:WTF has come over the community? I remember not that long ago people actually going out of thier way to be supportive and helpful of first timers? Is it because we got an influx of players form other MMOs? if So keep that kind of behavior to yourselves and spend a long time in introspection.

It's literally always been an issue in the same minute volume then as it is now.

Actually, this idea of mine would prevent. Imagine this: You are in a party of 8 man, one of them are new, in my case it was a mandervile - hillibrand cutscene! So of course it's a blast. But let us remain general; the cutscenes of dungeons/trials/raid aren't long, so basically my idea came to; if there is 1(or more, but importantly 1) is new and thus have cutscene, making party watch it to not leave the new player out, definitely puts an end to rude, impatient people and gives new players less paranoid feeling of being forced to skip. But this I recommend, if a player is new (everyone gets a bonus from the player, why not have consideration)? It is not meant as punishment, but resolve in my idea.

I'll be honest, right now I do Castrum and Praetorium outside of roulette because people ask me to, just because they need it for MSQ. I do the actual MSQ roulette maybe once a week at best.

If they implemented your suggestion exactly, I would unsubscribe immediately. Also as per your suggestion, I'd have to watch those cutscenes for all the new content too. I don't even watch that junk on my own time.

I can guarantee, anybody can, if you just look at the immense negative backlash from all ffxiv communities in regards to MSQ roulette, that 'newbie bashing' would become the norm; and I wouldn't blame them. That's definitely one of the worst suggestions I have ever read in regards to this game. Want to stop newbie bashing? First of all, it's not even a relevant problem. 1/100 cases isn't a pandemic. Second, stop putting cutscenes in instances. Put them before you enter and after. They disrupt the gameplay flow.

Also - We don't need your bonus. We have faster, focused ways of generating xp, tomestones and even 2nd Chance Points.

Ultimately it's this - Why is your time any more important than mine? Our subs are the same price. So why do you dictate that I have to sit around and do nothing for 2 minutes because you want to watch a cutscene? The better idea is to just place cutscenes in solo play only.

[Felis]

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But it is not about the MSQ instance, it is about Keeper of the Big Bridge, a trial.

Normally the devs solved it with capturing everyone within a circle at the start until everyone saw the CS and turning off the kick function for some minutes after the start. I don't know if there is a second CS where Gilgamesh reach the last part of the bridge.