First Time bonus - abandon?

[Felis]

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But it is not about the MSQ instance, it is about Keeper of the Big Bridge, a trial.

Normally the devs solved it with capturing everyone within a circle at the start until everyone saw the CS and turning off the kick function for some minutes after the start. I don't know if there is a second CS where Gilgamesh reach the last part of the bridge.

[Luin]

But it is not about the MSQ instance, it is about Keeper of the Big Bridge, a trial.

You're missing the point, OP is asking for mandatory cutscenes in all instances whenever there's a bonus.

[Sylvina]

Short answer: No they do not get the bonus if the First Timer leaves.

Long Answer:WTF has come over the community? I remember not that long ago people actually going out of thier way to be supportive and helpful of first timers? Is it because we got an influx of players form other MMOs? if So keep that kind of behavior to yourselves and spend a long time in introspection.

I haven't really seen this behavior much, so I think the OP just got very unlucky with duty finder RNG.

[TaranTatsuuchi]

Short answer: No they do not get the bonus if the First Timer leaves.

Long Answer:WTF has come over the community? I remember not that long ago people actually going out of thier way to be supportive and helpful of first timers? Is it because we got an influx of players form other MMOs? if So keep that kind of behavior to yourselves and spend a long time in introspection.

Back before the change to make cutscenes mandatory in the msq roulette dungeons, there were regular complaint threads about people having the story ruined for them in those dungeons in various places.
Reddit in particular got a lot of them.

I haven't seen any of those complaints since the change.
Just the occasional complaints about the non skippable cutscenes.

[Cirgellon]

Short answer: No they do not get the bonus if the First Timer leaves.

Long Answer:WTF has come over the community? I remember not that long ago people actually going out of thier way to be supportive and helpful of first timers? Is it because we got an influx of players form other MMOs? if So keep that kind of behavior to yourselves and spend a long time in introspection.

I just came back after 3 years and these complaints were happening back then. Also, I haven't seen anyone be rude yet, and. I've done a lot of dungeons the past two weeks.

I think that you are just letting your emotions get the better of you. Nothing has changed from what was happening 3 years ago.

[Lollerblades]

Yes even if the person with the first time bonus leaves, it's still granted to the remaining players upon completion.

[LeoLupinos]

I do really wish SE to implement more things to incentive veteran to help new players.
I do like very much to help new players, but it's so hard sometimes. We need to keep disbanding the party for every solo duty of MSQ, could we just watch the duty? It would be good to help even more.

[Aomine1992]

Two things, unskippable cutscenes is not the answer and very frustrating just look at the MSQ that takes almost an hour...

On my alt every time I get new person bonus they encourage me to watch cutscenes and people even explain stuff as we go until I explain that it's an alt but I still thank them so I think this is situational and not always the case for people to be rude..

[Gemina]

I'd be curious to hear how you were treated with specifics if you didn't mind sharing.

I'm trying to figure out what duty you joined where skipping a cutscene caused such a delay that you didn't even get to participate.

All it takes is one antsy player to pull the boss. It doesn't matter how long/short the cut scene is. I've seen early pulls done by all roles.

I can guarantee, anybody can, if you just look at the immense negative backlash from all ffxiv communities in regards to MSQ roulette, that 'newbie bashing' would become the norm; and I wouldn't blame them. That's definitely one of the worst suggestions I have ever read in regards to this game. Want to stop newbie bashing? First of all, it's not even a relevant problem. 1/100 cases isn't a pandemic. Second, stop putting cutscenes in instances. Put them before you enter and after. They disrupt the gameplay flow.

I find your view to be extremely negative. It encourages the mind set that no one's time is more important than your own. The majority of a cut scene already takes place before and after a dungeon. The cut scene we see is merely the boss's entrance. Some bosses with more significance to the story might have some dialogue such as Midgarsormr (I seriously watch his cut scene every time just to hear his 2.0 voice!), but these are few and far between. Especially after 2.x.

Ultimately it's this - Why is your time any more important than mine? Our subs are the same price. So why do you dictate that I have to sit around and do nothing for 2 minutes because you want to watch a cutscene? The better idea is to just place cutscenes in solo play only.

Nobody's time is more important than another's. I seriously grow tired of the trite argument about paid subs. We ARE A COMMUNITY, and you have seem to lost sight of this. We should be helping each other out. Especially the new players, instead of going out of our way to make their experience a bad one.

Two things, unskippable cutscenes is not the answer and very frustrating just look at the MSQ that takes almost an hour...

Can we please stop using these two instances like they are the norm? These are the only two instances where viewing the cut scenes lengthens the duration of the dungeon by a great deal. Nobody, and I do mean NOBODY is forcing you to do these roulettes unless you are at that point in the MSQ, in which case this player needs help to get through it. We now know what they entail. Don't hop in there knowing about the unskippable cut scenes and then complain about them afterwards.


Also, you indeed DO NOT get the first timer bonus if the new player disbands, gets kicked, or DCs. In order to get your bonus, they need to get their clear.

[starkingdom]

most/all begging & ending dgn cutsceens can be skip but the ending of few dgns cant skip like the last 2 dgns of reborn mqs ,etc.

but do ive alt char so i love the skip sceens parts in most all quest. because i use party finder and underparty to help clear theses dgns and all.