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  1. #121
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    Wait a minute there was Gabranth or some1 using that armor in the trailer
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  2. #122
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    Well that wasn't helpful at all!

    ... something I found interesting was that all the fight scenes, and most of the enemies therein, had that red/black aura. Yotsuyu's aunt and uncle / foster parents, all the other enemies, Zenos, even Asahi (to a degree), and the outside of the arena were all covered in it. That's interesting in and of itself, but the Gosetsu shown had a blue/white aura. The aura reminds me a bit of the one used in some other things... like the Dark Knight quests... and Yotsuyu's line about her "soul [being] steeped in spite and rotten to the core"... just a hunch, but I think we might actually be doing some of that "soul diving" business everyone expected would be used to save Estinien. Maybe. Possibly.

    Or maybe she's just going to remember herself and things go south from there. Or something else entirely. Dunno.

    If it's true there's no footage of the trial in the trailer, then other than Asahi's inevitable backstabbing I... can't try and chart out how it's going to go. How exciting!

    Quote Originally Posted by Remedi View Post
    Wait a minute there was Gabranth or some1 using that armor in the trailer
    Looked like it might have been Gabranth to me...
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  3. #123
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    Back to Ishgard? Yes please. I want updates on those characters.
    I owe my friend a fanfic, topic of her choosing, if we ever see Emmanellain and the rest of the Ishgard gang again. I both long for and dread that day. (My favorite dumb elf son!...but then I have to write.)
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  4. #124
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nestama View Post
    The gunblade design is pretty similar...

    To be honest I really really want that to be true. There were a LOT of times that this individual was brought up in Gyr Abanian sidequests, especially in the fringes. Furthermore, though it may not be related we're suddenly being FORCED to watch the cutscenes in main scenario dungeons now which remind people of what he was all about at a time when we can better understand their motives. One can hope.
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  5. #125
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    Now that someone pointed out that there were other players present during one of the fight scenes, I feel pretty convinced that those were part of whatever trial we're getting; probably as a transition phase.

    Can't be said whether Yotsuyu is going to simply summon a primal or if she'll straight up become one somehow, but I'm thinking that whatever the outcome, it's going to initially be in turmoil, but her darkness will take over entirely during the transition and set the stage for the rest of the fight.

    Though it's also possible that Zenos winning is a wipe condition and isn't supposed to happen if the phase is executed properly.
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  6. #126
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    Quote Originally Posted by AxlTheHunter View Post
    To be honest I really really want that to be true. There were a LOT of times that this individual was brought up in Gyr Abanian sidequests, especially in the fringes. Furthermore, though it may not be related we're suddenly being FORCED to watch the cutscenes in main scenario dungeons now which remind people of what he was all about at a time when we can better understand their motives. One can hope.
    Ye, I agree, they have been keeping him coming up for a while now, even with him not beign present in potd while his dead allies are, the MSQ has never been that subtle either, when they told us of the Ivy Roaille was literally in the middle of the background and that was enough for me to suspect of her, if I remember well she even had a light on her
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  7. #127
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cilia View Post
    Well that wasn't helpful at all!

    ... something I found interesting was that all the fight scenes, and most of the enemies therein, had that red/black aura. Yotsuyu's aunt and uncle / foster parents, all the other enemies, Zenos, even Asahi (to a degree), and the outside of the arena were all covered in it. That's interesting in and of itself, but the Gosetsu shown had a blue/white aura. The aura reminds me a bit of the one used in some other things... like the Dark Knight quests... and Yotsuyu's line about her "soul [being] steeped in spite and rotten to the core"... just a hunch, but I think we might actually be doing some of that "soul diving" business everyone expected would be used to save Estinien. Maybe. Possibly.

    Or maybe she's just going to remember herself and things go south from there. Or something else entirely. Dunno.
    Maybe thanks to Asahis doing she starts to remember the bad things she did (thus breaking down and saying sorry) and the two personas are fighting against each other. (Yotsuyu vs. Tsuyu) We somehow manage to either go inside or just see that "fight" and the red aura people like Zenos are her bad side and Gosetsu is the new good in her..thus "Gosetsu" is slain and she looses herself again to hatred and with the help of Asahi and the mirror she turns into a primal.

    Someone on reddit did point out that in the japanese trailer Asahi asks us, if we would really attack an emissary because of a fallen female foe. Which kinda points out that either we are angry that he made Tsuyu remember it again or angry that she died.

    Quote Originally Posted by Remedi View Post
    Mh it's possible, though it feels odd having this scene during a doma story arc, maybe we see Zenos at the end of the Doma story and we go to his tomb to check on him, but if I recall it correctly they already told us the tomb was found empty. I think moose told me
    I also sadly dont remember it the exact way but I thought that they said that some Ala Mhigans tried to rob the grave and they stopped them? It would really not make sense to check the grave again if he was already missing back then..or this is all a false lead and we are looking at a scene where they are gathering around a fallen friend..(I really hope not..)

    Edit: Or maybe this is just a flashback that shows how we put him in his grave and thus we remember that he should be death.
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  8. #128
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    I'd assume she's going to be one who gets shot by him, probably after he "justifies" it by setting her up and making her unintentionally summon or transform into a primal (Which we defeat with all the intent of saving her).

    I doubt he ever intended to keep her alive to begin with, considering that's she's both a failure in Zenos' eyes and a holder of potentially sensitive information the Empire doesn't want leaking to their enemies.

    Also, with how much emphasis they're putting on the moon, I'm fully expecting the primal to be Tsukuyomi, with generating hallucinations being one of its abilities (The moon was oft associated with madness or lunacy, after all), which would be a good explanation for all the weirdness we see going on in the trailer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KageTokage View Post
    (Which we defeat with all the intent of saving her).
    Dunno about this... while I get that some people like Yotsuyu and would like her to have a redemption story (making hat two female antagonists in the same expansion), I feel we'd be fighting the Primal because: it's our duty as WoL's, plus the danger Primals are overall. Saving her is probably a lost cause.

    If she becomes a Primal, then she's going to die. She doesn't have the Echo, so she can't pull off a Shiva and will instead fizzle away like Louisoix and Thordan. If she summons the Primal, then odds are she might be tempered by it and would then need to be executed because of that.
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  10. #130
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nestama View Post
    If she becomes a Primal, then she's going to die. She doesn't have the Echo, so she can't pull off a Shiva and will instead fizzle away like Louisoix and Thordan. If she summons the Primal, then odds are she might be tempered by it and would then need to be executed because of that.
    Unless resonant ex-machina, but seems unlikely
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