seems like FF community start to get known

[Ghastly]

Tanks are only the leaders when they fully understand their capabilities and the capabilities of their party. Most tanks barely understand how to hold hate. These are not leaders, these are meat shields. And for the record, I mained PLD through 3.5.

A king is a king no matter how bad that king governs. We're talking about roles, not about how you feel about it. Kings can be given advise but it's ultimately up to them to set the pace.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

A king is a king no matter how bad that king governs. We're talking about roles, not about how you feel about it. Kings can be given advise but it's ultimately up to them to set the pace.

A tank is not a King. And a King is only a King as long as people don't overthrow him. Which happens to bad Kings. And Kings usually have an army backing them up. A tank has 3 people in a dungeon, and dungeons are majority rules, not kingdoms.

[Rivxkobe]

A king is a king

The delusion.

You are the kind of player that gives Tanks a bad name. I mained tank through all of HW and I 100% disagree with basically everything you are saying.

Tanks are not the "boss". They are not a "king". If I encountered you in a dungeon and you disregarded the team in a leveling dungeon because you wanted to look around, I'd push for you to be kicked or I'd just run off without you. Tanks are NOT needed in leveling dungeons, you are not more important than everyone else, and you can look around on your own time. The party is a team, and they are all the decision makers. Stop with this high-and-mighty tank-centric mindset.

There is a reason tanks are known to be selfish and awful players. I suggest you stop, and take a look at how you treat your party members or how you view them compared to yourself. You are nothing more than an equal part of the party.

[F_Maximillian]

The delusion.

You are the kind of player that gives Tanks a bad name. I mained tank through all of HW and I 100% disagree with basically everything you are saying.

Tanks are not the "boss". They are not a "king". If I encountered you in a dungeon and you disregarded the team in a leveling dungeon because you wanted to look around, I'd push for you to be kicked or I'd just run off without you. Tanks are NOT needed in leveling dungeons, you are not more important than everyone else, and you can look around on your own time. The party is a team, and they are all the decision makers. Stop with this high-and-mighty tank-centric mindset.

There is a reason tanks are known to be selfish and awful players. I suggest you stop, and take a look at how you treat your party members or how you view them compared to yourself. You are nothing more than an equal part of the party.

As a tank main and a selfish and awful player it's my job to aggro enemies not my party members so I tend to defer to diplomacy.. most of the time. Though I will say people like to heap responsibility on to the tank a lot of the time which is why so many people suffer from "tankxiety". So it's understandable why people who main tanks could come to assume they're the leaders of the group because they wind up being put in that spot often.

[Paladinleeds]

A king is a king no matter how bad that king governs.

Good thing you're not on my datacentre. I can see playstyle differences right there. My rule is: Have specific needs that go against the usual (tank anxiety, not familiar witrh the dungeon as a role, etc), you speak up. Where it isn't something ridiculous (say RPing it) I will accommodate (tank anxiety for example is something I will accommodate, though for that I will also try to gently encourage you most likely). But I cannot know unless you speak up. Most players on Chaos that I've interacted with seem to be the same. We're willing to find a compromise if we know one needs to be made. We might rant after the duty is complete to our FC etc, but for the dungeon we will work with it.

[Shurrikhan]

A king is a king no matter how bad that king governs. We're talking about roles, not about how you feel about it. Kings can be given advise but it's ultimately up to them to set the pace.

When the nation would proceed better without you... you're a dead or exiled king.

The purpose of every party member is simple: to accelerate victory.

A tank's toolkit should best be utilized to that effect, but that does not prohibit less specialized players from participating where at no cost to their contribution in tasks usually associated with those specialized roles.

There's no issue with a Bard gathering mobs to you if you fail to keep pace or click off lingering HoTs in order to face-pull effectively. There's no issue with a RDM using Vercure between fights from a position nearer the next pack than the tank to more quickly accelerate preparedness.

[Glenfiddich]

A king is a king no matter how bad that king governs. We're talking about roles, not about how you feel about it. Kings can be given advise but it's ultimately up to them to set the pace.

I can imagine that you are one of those players complaining about the toxic FF community.
When reading your post I thought the following.
You will be removed from the Group because of your bad behavior. Then you go to Reddit and complain about the toxic FF community.
I have seen many Tanks like you, thinking they can play stupid games in Dungeons, got kicked from the group. I myself have initiated vote kicks. You are nothing more than a Player of a group of four.

[Soupa]

A king is a king no matter how bad that king governs. We're talking about roles, not about how you feel about it. Kings can be given advise but it's ultimately up to them to set the pace.

You’ll regret angering the healer overlords.

Ok real talk is this guy for real? I thought he was trolling lol.

[Canadane]

A king is a king no matter how bad that king governs. We're talking about roles, not about how you feel about it. Kings can be given advise but it's ultimately up to them to set the pace.

It's just my first name D

But if I'm tanking and someone pulls ahead of me, I am clearly going too slow so I pick it up a notch.

[Hugowulf]

A king is a king no matter how bad that king governs. We're talking about roles, not about how you feel about it. Kings can be given advise but it's ultimately up to them to set the pace.

Lol please, thank god I tank. Saves the issue of running into gems like you.