Cash shop pricing is getting a bit much...

[Nerfworthy]

As someone who's played both WoW and FFXIV... I am okay with most of the prices. Most things are actually cheaper in FFXIV, for example the level boosts are less than half the price of WoW character boosts. Fantasia are less than half the price of race changes in WoW. I think the $18 outfits are a bit much, but the mounts/minions/etc are fine.

[CainCrimson]

I dont take pleasure in saying this but, the real "negative force" behind high pricing are the gamers that keep buying the items.

Anyone trying to make a profit (much like most of us on the in-game market boards) will try to pass off the highest price possible.
If no one buys over a long enough period of time, we will likely lower the price.
If even one fool buys, we will forever know that even though the price is high there is a chance it well sell at that price...and keep selling at that price in the future.

[bass9020]

And yet over fifteen years later FFXI remains a subscription game. This doom say scenario of FFXIV going F2P will never happen.

It was more a joke then anything, they clearly see that even with a monthly sub people will still buy into the mog station. Heck I buy things from time to time. Profit is profit regardless of how its obtained or by what means. And XI still having a sub is probably the reason XIV wont lose theres anytime soon.

Its sad we dont see more of it get put into XIV in terms of QoL, server and graphical areas of the game but as long as SE is making money its all good, I guess?!

[Lunafreya]

It's absolutely a shame because I wanted the Nezha lady outfit and to see it is yet another ripoff of 18 dollars is thoroughly disappointing. This is downright robbery... for instance in Street fighter V I can purchase a character and OUTFIT bundle for 7 bucks which IMO is fair. It's the damn whales on these forums that keep saying they will pay for crap on mogstation that is making the prices for outfits really expensive. It's simple glamour that by all means should be in the game. All of these eastern outfits could have been part of quests in Kugane or something... we have an Eastern theme but hey to get actual Eastern outfits you need to pay! My god, paying a sub is already enough and even though these items are optional they are still ridiculously pricey and that is what pisses me off the most. Unless someone gifts me this, I dont think I'm ever going to spend a penny on it.

[Namallama]

I don't have a problem with the pricing. We can go on all day about how so many things should be account wide instead of per character, but the pricing is on par with other similar items already on the store. That, and at the end of the day, it isn't anything necessary to play the game.

My problem is how many things seem to be store exclusive nowadays. An old event? Sure, cash shop. Region exclusives being made available in the West? Okay. But things like the ripped Manderville items have no business being in the store, especially since we have no way of knowing how much of our purchases go back towards XIV and not say, the new VII or something. :/

[Mayku]

I'm not demanding anything here btw. I don't even want those items. But I'll never defend bad business, in whatever form and whatever the cultural norm is elsewhere. I spend my money on what I enjoy and find value in. For me personally, I think the prices for these mogshop items are absurd. I sympathize with those who can't afford them or won't buy them on principal.

I agree on that and I am someone who bought a lot.
Lately I find myself paying way too much, maybe it's the paste they come up with the items, maybe the many 18€ items...But as a former person from the gaming industry, I know a lot of those items where made in less than 4 days, sometimes less than an hour...They are over value. And Blizzard who is own by Activision isn't a good ex to compare.

I love the game but I stopped buying mog station items since 2 months. I will wait for a sale because I want a future where SE brings more "normal" pricing so that most ppl can afford them.

[Sigma-Astra]

If it's so simple, then there is no reason to discuss it on the forum. Then this whole topic is useless.

The reason for my rude question was very simple to trigger people. Like I said earlier I dont care about the *extra stuff* and too be honest, I dont really care if people buy them.

What i do understand why people are against it. You cannot really say there is alot of content what you keep playing the game in the long run.

If your sole purpose was to trigger other people, then congrats on making yourself look petty and rude, I guess...? You do you.

/shrugs

[Divinemights]

This type of thread only exists on items that people really want but not willing to pay for it. You dont see people rage this much when it is those NPC outfit are on mogstation

[Sigma-Astra]

I also want to note that calling the people "whales" that want to buy these items because they simply want to enjoy them, as is usually the case when someone sees something they want in real life such as a nice outfit or a new food that they want to try, you're just making those people tune you out. People are less likely to care what other people think regarding their own wallets when you try to shove your nose in their business and insult them in the process.

There's no need for name-calling on either side and honestly, pointing the fingers and blaming others for having a disposable income because you don't or because you're not willing to spend that much is just shifting the blame away from SE and your ire onto someone that doesn't really deserve it. You're not helping curb their spending habits, you're enabling them to do it purely out of spite at that point.

It's fine for people to think it's too expensive for their tastes. It's fine for people to think otherwise and buy it. We all have our different ways of spending and we really shouldn't be faulting one another for it. Imagine the last thing that you bought and someone randomly coming up to you and calling you a "whale" for buying it in real life, both sides are creating a hostile environment by being overly aggressive and condescending towards each other, but more so the people that just resort to the "whale" tactic when they see someone buying something that they don't agree with, but what themselves as well.

I want a lot of things in real life that I can't otherwise afford, I'm not about to just walk outside and insult every other person I see with them because I feel I deserve them as well. You don't insult someone walking down the street wearing an outfit that you can't afford, but they can...at least, you shouldn't because that's incredibly rude and you could be arrested for harassment. >_>;

[Alleo]

Maybe we should stop asking them in the first place?
Do we really need every crap the KR, CN clients add to theeir game for 0 reasons at all but beign sold for bucks to their playerbase? Some have really questionable taste

One man`s trash is another man`s treasure. At least if they put them in the mog station (I understand that they do that for something that comes from some other version or did cost money in the other version too) we do have the chance to get them. If its your taste or not does not really count for this imo. (Especially since we already have trash [imo] that is the yokai mount)

I think it's because, when they first added the shop, it mostly/only contained returning event items, and they've kept those at a lower price point. Then, after people requested they also bring over the Chinese exclusive items, they started introducing new cash shop exclusive items at the higher pricing tier (while continuing to add seasonal rewards at lower price points). So because all the "new items" are more expensive, it creates a perception that prices have gone up.

It's also often the case that the new items are added to the cash shop during patch lulls (rather than coinciding with patches and seasonal events as the others often do), which draws even more attention to these new items and their prices. Obviously introducing these items at that time is a marketing strategy (since it doesn't get buried by other news), but I think it's also partly what's fueling this perception of an increased focus on the cash shop (since it's right during those lulls when people think "they could have added this to the game!").

IMO the event items are far away from being cheap. Anything that is over one dollar for a simple wallpaper is too much, especially since Yoshida said that they dont want to earn money with that move (suddenly putting the event stuff in the mog station and not leaving them ingame) but give others a chance to own them..yet when you look at those prices..I mean those are items that are already ingame. Thus not something that was just created for cash shop.

so.. don't.

That "argument" can be used to anything. You dont like Eureka? Just dont do it. You dont like content x just dont do it. Just because we have the option not do it/or buy it doesnt mean that we should be fine with that.

It’s wrong and entitled to demand an item for reduced price or for free when someone else had to pay for the same thing. These regional items weren’t passed out for free in their respective regions, the Chinese and Korean players had to pay for them in some manner so asking SE to give us those same items for free goes beyond the pale.

How would you feel if SE designed some NA or EU themed armor and made us pay for it (either directly or via a promotion), but then they turned around and mailed it to all of the other regions for free?

I can understand that it would be too much to give us that for free if the other version had to pay for it. But why exactly is it entitlement if someone wants to pay less? Its a digital item. And in the end are you entitled too if you buy something for less in real life? Do you go and say that you want to pay more because customer/country x had to pay more? I am quite sure that most wont. And thats about real existing items that may cost the shop money even after creating it.