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  1. #201
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coglin View Post
    Thats not true in the least. Drawings of "concepts" and a video of gear already in game in a video in which the dev specifically said in the post "lets give you a peak at loot that "Good King Moggle Mog XII" will bring!" are two entirely diffrent things.

    The cat is confussed =-.-=
    The cat could get confused however I think I will stay bemused instead. Yes one shows what is being brought in game and one shows what the concept of such items is... the fact that in the vid the moogle sword and staff are the same as what is in the concept art is what I was pointing out as a way to show that it is a good chance what is in the concept art is what will be in the game... is it all an assumption sure it is and I could be completely wrong but that is how things go when you assume.

    I would also go with what is show in the concept art for the fact that as I said most of those are the more traditional looks of the jobs that have been in the many FF games that had a job system in place as I already list out in other posts. Now do all of these jobs show up in all of the FF games well no and yes to certain extents... it could be said that because certain characters have this ability or can cast this type of magic that can be seen as this job or that job.

    In reality it is all assumption until the cards are placed in front of you to see... and at any point thing can be changed for that is how life goes...

    The cat is bemused =-.-=
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chinook View Post
    White Black Mages,
    Black White Mages,
    White Red Mages,
    Red White Mages,
    Black Red Mages,
    Red Black Mages,

    It makes so much sense.
    These are from FFT:
    BLM - http://www.spriters-resource.com/psx...blackmagem.png
    DRG - http://www.spriters-resource.com/psx...t/dragoonm.png
    WHM - http://www.spriters-resource.com/psx...whitemagef.png

    I had no problems distinguishing what I was fighting since the look remains the same. I was always under the impression that the iconic style of the outfit determines the job, not the specific color. I'd honestly rather be able to have color variations for a JSE set with each new JSE set released having an entirely different yet familiar look. The Black Mages/Waltzes from IX for example: http://www.ffcompendium.com/misc/9-allblackmages-o.jpg.

    Though I'll admit that a few jobs have specific colors associated with them (mages mainly). Besides, not all Jobs have iconic colors or even specific styles. Look at MNK and NIN for instance. Changes every game they are in. Even DRG doesn't have a specific color (Green/Blue/Purple/Black/E-Body Blurple).

    And like someone mentioned earlier, since we can't freely dye and redye gear till 2.0, probably not a good idea to have the option on JSE if it's not re-attainable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PrettyPrincess View Post
    Will we be able to choose what color we want our AF gear to be?
    the op question has been answered, useless thread now. lol at ppl still arguing over this
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    Hate to break it to you but those are recolored sprites that are used for the 8-way movement system of the RPG Maker series (looks like Mack-style to be precise) Yes they are a "rip" from Tactics, but that's not "Tactics" so try not to sell it that way, k, thanks.

    Dragoon as my favorite job of all time, has always been: Purple-black (the hue might change depending on the game, but its always that purple/black scheme; never seen a legitimate green one >.>)

    Monks were traditionally light blue and became Orange/red later in the series (again not crazy amounts of different colors)
    Ninjas are traditionally deep red or black (or a mix of both) through out the series (again not a crazy amount of different colors)

    Just Google image search "Final Fantasy JOB_NAME" (make sure to use the parenthesis to make sure its only FF jobs and not different games, like if you did Final Fantasy Dragoon, you get results for Legend of Dragoon as well, which is totally different, lol)
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  5. #205
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    @OMEGA_HACK

    BLM
    In Green
    In Purple
    In Red

    DRG
    Red, Blue, Purple
    Aqua (Blue/Green)

    You were saying? Ninjas have been various colors as well... Green/Red/White/Black/Blue/Purple. Monks have are even worse when it comes to color variation and style variation.

    I'll admit I was wrong with the green Dragoon (aside from in FFT, yup green dragoons up in thar too) since it was Aqua.

    Devs have spoken anyway so it's all a moot point.
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    Indeed..i runned out of keyword ideas to find them...dragoon is a too generic name...would be easier just find my FFTA and search a clan with a DRG on their team lol
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    Your comparing water color Amano concept art to actual in-game icons? How absurd. If you ONLY referenced Amano art then you'd quickly realize that most if not all his art is colored differently than what actually happens. Okay I will admit I have no honest answer to Faris being a red dragoon, honestly I forgot about it, but 1 character out of how many were the traditional Purple to black color scheme? All the rest.

    On the Tactics...YOU cannot get a red/green/blue color variants, I hate having to explain the obvious, but here we go.

    You are taking a system style (Tactic battle system) and trying to warp its function to your betterment, what you fail to realize is that the ENTIRE ENEMY TEAM is also Red/Purple/Green/Blue/etc. Its a common function in Tactics based video games to better represent opposing units vs your own units. To provide you with proof to this claim you need look no further than the evidence you have provided, if you want additional proof then go open a copy of Star Craft 1 or 2 and play the multiplayer, you will quickly notice there are a set number of colors you can choose from to distinguish your own units from the enemy units.

    Its a shame that you have resolved to use "parlor-tricks" so to speak to make a claim where you have none. I'm not being mean, I am being factual.
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    How about an ingame sprite? That work for ya?

    And you're not explaining anything not already known regarding FFT. You missed the entire point of me even linking those pictures to begin with.
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    Im not missing any points on the Tactics...your saying "Look at all these different colors for XYZ Job! So why not be able to do it in FFXIV?"

    My Answer: Those jobs are only recolored to distinguish your units from the enemy units. In the game Final Fantasy Tactics you DID NOT get to choose what color your BLM was going to be is my point and why I am making the claim of you skewing fact. Which you are to justify your own claim.

    Edit: Oh yeah I forgot the SNES version of IV was a teal Kain, before they decided to unify the series with Purple-Black Dragoons which is why in the remakes he was recolored to match the rest of the series. But let's just forget about that because, clearly S-E is going to let us dye our AF any color when they went back and changed a classic for sake of continuity. /sarcasm
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    Quote Originally Posted by OMEGA_HACK View Post
    Those jobs are only recolored to distinguish your units from the enemy units.

    This is what is commonly refered to as bull****.

    You made some ridiculos false assumption that every job in every FF titled game was the same color. Thats wrong.

    Someone displays proof and you start blowing some smoke about differentiating from the enemy. If its so traditional, why would they change the player charater and not the enemy NPCs?

    You falsly and incorrectly assume you know why a game developer did it in said manner, that in itself drops your credibility by miles.
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