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  1. #21
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lissandra View Post
    Interesting. I wonder why this is.
    The official explanation is that they want to get the digests out faster and that the Twitter updates will reach a wider audience than the forum does. In my mind, though, I see it as them cutting down communication to us even more because we are not as important as the JP players. Especially since those live Twitter updates we got basically told us nothing except that a few things are headed our way. You cannot condense two hours worth of Live Letter into about four tweets, yet that is what we got. They probably expect fans to do all the heavy lifting... as people on reddit have already done.

    SE is being as arrogant as they were in 1.0. XIV is the only real success they have had lately outside of phone games stuffed to the brim with micro transactions so of course they will try to bleed us dry to recoup losses and fund other projects...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hestzhyen View Post
    SE is being as arrogant as they were in 1.0. XIV is the only real success they have had lately outside of phone games stuffed to the brim with micro transactions so of course they will try to bleed us dry to recoup losses and fund other projects...
    Amen !

    But hey, let them lose a bit more players than they are now, maybe they'll think about their behavior twice
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  3. #23
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gleipni View Post
    Waiting 17 month to get a Fate farm map. Are they trying to kill the game or ? im lost i dont know what the dev are thinking ?Since stormblood i have no fun.primal are disapointing,dungeon.....same thing since 4 years yay.

    FFXIV is basically a more modern cross between (imo) WoW and Sims. FFXIV is a themepark MMO. Like most themeparks (Six Flags?) you have SEVERAL different rides to choose from: Savage rollercoaster, Sigmascape teacup ride, Eureka's Haunted House, Tomestone Tilt-ta-whirl...etc. The list goes on. Sims like: Glamour, Housing(wars), Glamour, Role-Playing, Glamour, Dancing naked in Limsa, did I mention Glamour yet?

    Basically, this game isn't made to be last you no more than a month each patch cycle, so to prevent burn out, I'd take a break. But I totally understand where you are coming from Gleipni. Hopefully the devs will see and think about the game's longevity.

    Edit: From these new micro transactions, they better be putting more budget into THIS game and not their other projects. Lack of a good budget means the game won't improve much imo. Granted, I still wouldn't do the Premium plan. Free version? Maybe. Because I'm kupo for Kupo Nutz.
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    Last edited by Usho; 04-16-2018 at 03:07 AM.

  4. #24
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hestzhyen View Post
    The official explanation is that they want to get the digests out faster and that the Twitter updates will reach a wider audience than the forum does. In my mind, though, I see it as them cutting down communication to us even more because we are not as important as the JP players. Especially since those live Twitter updates we got basically told us nothing except that a few things are headed our way. You cannot condense two hours worth of Live Letter into about four tweets, yet that is what we got. They probably expect fans to do all the heavy lifting... as people on reddit have already done.

    SE is being as arrogant as they were in 1.0. XIV is the only real success they have had lately outside of phone games stuffed to the brim with micro transactions so of course they will try to bleed us dry to recoup losses and fund other projects...
    I don't use twitter...

    Guess I'll just stick to the unofficial translations.
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  5. #25
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hestzhyen View Post
    SE is being as arrogant as they were in 1.0. XIV is the only real success they have had lately outside of phone games stuffed to the brim with micro transactions so of course they will try to bleed us dry to recoup losses and fund other projects...
    Pretty sure that Final Fantasy XV is a still-ongoing success since two years ago. And a big one. That game supposedly covered its development costs on day one...so it is nearly pure profit since then.
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    Player Vhailor's Avatar
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    I don't think anything new is going on with SE. This has been par for the course for them for awhile now, as both a publisher and developer.

    They begin by releasing a solid title: Deus Ex HR, Tomb Raider, FFXIV ARR, what have you. Then, they fund more of the same, with additional monetization efforts (attached mobile apps; timed Xbox exclusives; Mog Station; DLC that should never have been DLC). Eventually, when sales flag, they move on to plunder new franchises or titles.

    It's really an atrocious business model for their long-term health as a publisher. But, it's what they've settled on. Until, and unless, their stockholders and customers punish them for it, it likely won't change. I do what I can personally - avoid purchasing any of their titles at full price, avoid participating in any of the monetization efforts beyond the base game (and base subscription in FFXIV's case) - and I feel alright with this approach. It's the best we can do, really; a boycott I suppose is one further step to potentially take, but I like a lot of the franchises that SE is busy milking.

    At the very least, though, anyone irritated by this stuff should avoid ALL of the add-on crap SE is trying to push on us for FFXIV. The Mog Station, additional Retainer subscription costs, and this pending mobile app, only exist because a lot of people pay for them. And the next time someone shows off their newly-purchased emote or mount, don't ooh and aah - shrug your shoulders and tell them you're not the type to waste your money supporting scummy business habits, but oh yes, enjoy your new toy. It's a start, at least.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vhailor View Post
    It's really an atrocious business model for their long-term health as a publisher. But, it's what they've settled on. Until, and unless, their stockholders and customers punish them for it, it likely won't change. I do what I can personally - avoid purchasing any of their titles at full price, avoid participating in any of the monetization efforts beyond the base game (and base subscription in FFXIV's case) - and I feel alright with this approach. It's the best we can do, really; a boycott I suppose is one further step to potentially take, but I like a lot of the franchises that SE is busy milking.

    At the very least, though, anyone irritated by this stuff should avoid ALL of the add-on crap SE is trying to push on us for FFXIV. The Mog Station, additional Retainer subscription costs, and this pending mobile app, only exist because a lot of people pay for them. And the next time someone shows off their newly-purchased emote or mount, don't ooh and aah - shrug your shoulders and tell them you're not the type to waste your money supporting scummy business habits, but oh yes, enjoy your new toy. It's a start, at least.
    Hear, hear
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  8. #28
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    Quote Originally Posted by PandaMonium View Post
    Ah, and they said that from now on, there will be not an official forum updates on the Live Letters - the only official real time posting will be in the official J FFXIV Twitter.
    Not exactly correct, they removed it in favor of a faster digest.
    While it's nonetheless annoying it's better to use their own words in this situations unless we like for our agruments to be easily shut down
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  9. #29
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    I honestly jsut want them to introducing new ways to level up DoW/DoM Jobs. Having only spam Beast tribe daily and roulette is rather dull and I wish they would just introduce a new Palace of the Dead for the 4.X era. It would also allow introduction to more rewards and things to do with friends, FC members, and etc who are just trying to level up their characters.
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  10. #30
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    Quote Originally Posted by EdwinLi View Post
    I honestly jsut want them to introducing new ways to level up DoW/DoM Jobs. Having only spam Beast tribe daily and roulette is rather dull and I wish they would just introduce a new Palace of the Dead for the 4.X era. It would also allow introduction to more rewards and things to do with friends, FC members, and etc who are just trying to level up their characters.
    That's coming in 4.3, though I've had my stuff at 70 for months, so it wont help me level much lol.
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