Delete feast? Failed experiment?

[LostTiger]

U b Ok
Go do PvE or something if you dislike Feast

[Divinemights]

U b Ok
Go do PvE or something if you dislike Feast

Isn’t that the reason why Feast is dying? I really have no patient for a 25 min wait. Join The Frontline instead and found a lot of Feast players are there. You are not helping the cause lol

[Crit]

youre right that feast is pretty rng with teammates but if you improve upon yourself and be the good player, you can make the difference and dictate matches with your own skill. there are players that singlehandedly make matches harder for the other team, i'm sure you know the names of a few on each datacenter.

[Myon88]

They should shift all their esports endeavours to Lord of Verminion if you ask me, might as well replace one 'dead' mode with another.

It's 1v1 so no more complaining about teammates, far more balanced because everything is symmetrical, and by virtue of being an rts with no global cooldown, has a far, far higher skill ceiling.

[Guesswhat]

...for all the problems that FFXIV's pvp has, I guarantee you making it premade teams only will be far more of a stake through the heart than anything else has been.

For feast I think it's safe to assume it is. Will it also kill frontlines? Perhaps.
My biggest gripe with feast as is, is that it's ranked. It's hard to take "feast=ranked" serious. Remove the ranked part or make it team-based only, then it would work (if you ignore that fact that this would kill it lol).
Imo, it would be better to delete feast (or make it 8v8 for fun/custom matches), and spend more time developing large scale battle modes/maps.

[Mantrus]

I can't believe people are actually giving this thread serious consideration. There are so many reasons all this stuff is a bad idea.

1) regardless of how bad feast supposedly is, there's no value added to removing it. Like no matter how bad Diadem was, it wasn't hurting anything by being there so why remove it.

2) competitiveness, reward scheme, or value of premade team play are dumb metrics to evaluate whether to remove a feature or not. People enjoy feast and that should be the end of the story.

3) having only team play with no solo queue is unfeasible. Team play has NEVER had sustainable activity levels; if people think queues are dead now, then just wait for when team rewards are announced.

4) if you think feast isn't competitive because it's all teammate RNG, then all I can say is "get good":



That's all melee DPS by the way. I suck at healing.

[Guesswhat]

I can't believe people are actually giving this thread serious consideration. There are so many reasons all this stuff is a bad idea.

1) regardless of how bad feast supposedly is, there's no value added to removing it. Like no matter how bad Diadem was, it wasn't hurting anything by being there so why remove it.

SE already removed Slaughter, in what I assume was an attempt to make the other deadish PvP content less deadish. SE also basically removed PvP entirely from the game, made a new PvP in its stead in an attempt to attract more people by making PvP more newbie friendly. Removing feast could arguably work in a similar fashion towards the other PvP modes.

2) competitiveness, reward scheme, or value of premade team play are dumb metrics to evaluate whether to remove a feature or not. People enjoy feast and that should be the end of the story.

If it's "dumb" or not depends on the what you measure, and that is not my argument, strictly speaking. Having a premade-team ranked system makes a lot more sense.

3) having only team play with no solo queue is unfeasible. Team play has NEVER had sustainable activity levels; if people think queues are dead now, then just wait for when team rewards are announced.

Team play not sustainable? In this game for sure. I don't think anyone argues otherwise. I'm pretty confident it would pretty much kill feast.

4) if you think feast isn't competitive because it's all teammate RNG, then all I can say is "get good":

That's all melee DPS by the way. I suck at healing.

Yes, well, my victory rate is similar, around 80%, and I've only played as monk. But only about 15 matches, so I guess it doesn't really mean anything, and that is the point.
The low skill ceiling in 4.x PvP combined with the randomness of your teammates is my issue with the "ranked" part. If SE are to keep the skill ceiling this low, no one will ever take your rating serious. If things don't change, I would rather see SE spending time on the large scale PvP modes. But I'm not holding my breath; I'm pretty sure SE will continue pushing the e-sports hopes they got with the feast.

[Astrophysx]

Wouldn't it be better to make Feast Competitive mode for pre-made teams only? Or delete it?

Yoshi P and the devs already know that Feast, in its current state, must be revised. And as such, they're working on it. ^_^

Therefore, they will NOT delete Feast. Instead, we're guinea pigs in an on-going experiment in Solo Queue. O.o

*SE reveals new mount for Top 100.*

Ohh mount!! *Queues Ranked 4v4 Feast.*

[Zojha]

Yoshi P and the devs already know that Feast, in its current state, must be revised. And as such, they're working on it. ^_^

An effort akin to bringing a fried chicken to the veterinarian in the hopes of getting it to lay eggs again.

I'm mostly curious what else they'll come up with to promote it. Did they make it F2P yet? Free trial was made unlimited and extended to level 35 not too long ago, so unless there's a restriction preventing you from PvP, that'd make it F2P (and the fact chat is restricted for free trialers is fitting Feast quite nicely anyway). Not that it'd help, but I'm curious if it's possible.

[Divinemights]

Well, rated Frontline or Ballista seems to be other good options.