Delete feast? Failed experiment?

[Guesswhat]

Anyone else don't feel the real competition in feast?

I'm not saying the top players don't deserve the spots; but anyone who has participated in several seasons (even after the 4.0 change, aka, the -90% skill removal patch for PvP), should know that luck plays a fairly large role, mostly due to how your team-members turns out to be. Practically speaking, The Feast as a competitive milestone is extremely frustrating because of this.

Wouldn't it be better to make Feast Competitive mode for pre-made teams only? Or delete it?

Imo, the current PvP in FF14 works best with the 8v8v8 scale battle (or at least more than 4v4 single queue). The casual appeal of FF14 will never carry the weight competitive (single player) pvp demands.

[Stormfur]

I think it should be team-focused only, with rewards being titles and trophies for top placement and all other things made purchasable via wolf collars. The things that can be bought with wolf collars can be different colors than the originals, that way those people that hit the top 100 in previous seasons can still have their unique things.

I feel like that would be a fair compromise, and really would achieve the effect of getting more people involved in PVP. You can still have fun with friends and be competitive, and hey, icing on the cake if you get top 100.

[Kai_Lee]

Ahhhhhhhhh no.

[ManuelBravo]

hmmmm I would have to agree NO. I play PvP on and off and even I think that the Feast is not the joke part, is the fact that players think they can co operate. I would love to see a 1 on 1 duel option.

[Zojha]

I would love to see a 1 on 1 duel option.

Well, we already have a Dueling Area at the Wolves Den. It's best enjoyed with healers.

As for Feast, well... everyone knew the concept of E-Sports was stillborn from the beginning. Ranked is just an extension of that, much like the spectator feature nobody uses but has to be there because lolEsports. Until they abandon the E-Sports dream, they surely aren't going to abandon Feast either, because that's precisely the mode they intend to make a big entrance with.

The solo queue being the go-to format is largely just out of necessity, because there's not enough participation in the team queue. Heck, season 2 had someone with like 30 matches and 30% winrate in the top 30. I'd not be surprised if team queue had zero rewards this time around either, even if it's back, though the top ranks miiight get a fanfest invitation at some point. The fact they removed it at all speaks volumes, really, and the fact they debated to restrict queue hours at some point doesn't make things look all that more successful either.

Personally, I've long said my peace on what I think of Feast as "serious competition". I can't take it seriously. IMO, their entire direction here is way off the track.

[Connor]

Feast will remain long-forgotten content by all those except the few who go in, do a few matches for rewards then never queue again so they don’t risk losing rank.

They tried to fix it but didn’t have enough server space / servers too old / not enough devs / not enough time / not enough resources / coming soon.

Pick your excuse, because the devs won’t bother to give one

[Stormfur]

I know the dev team said a lot of things in this game are trial and error, but sometimes Feast feels like both.

Also I agree with ManuelBravo, a 1v1 duel option would be fun!

[Risvertasashi]

...for all the problems that FFXIV's pvp has, I guarantee you making it premade teams only will be far more of a stake through the heart than anything else has been.

[Guesswhat]

...for all the problems that FFXIV's pvp has, I guarantee you making it premade teams only will be far more of a stake through the heart than anything else has been.

For feast I think it's safe to assume it is. Will it also kill frontlines? Perhaps.
My biggest gripe with feast as is, is that it's ranked. It's hard to take "feast=ranked" serious. Remove the ranked part or make it team-based only, then it would work (if you ignore that fact that this would kill it lol).
Imo, it would be better to delete feast (or make it 8v8 for fun/custom matches), and spend more time developing large scale battle modes/maps.

[Mantrus]

I can't believe people are actually giving this thread serious consideration. There are so many reasons all this stuff is a bad idea.

1) regardless of how bad feast supposedly is, there's no value added to removing it. Like no matter how bad Diadem was, it wasn't hurting anything by being there so why remove it.

2) competitiveness, reward scheme, or value of premade team play are dumb metrics to evaluate whether to remove a feature or not. People enjoy feast and that should be the end of the story.

3) having only team play with no solo queue is unfeasible. Team play has NEVER had sustainable activity levels; if people think queues are dead now, then just wait for when team rewards are announced.

4) if you think feast isn't competitive because it's all teammate RNG, then all I can say is "get good":



That's all melee DPS by the way. I suck at healing.