[BLM Suggestion] Raise spell using Foul stack.

[Jukebox12]

How about a instant cast ogcd raise cost mana and on a 60 sec cooldown

[Lambdafish]

How about a instant cast ogcd raise cost mana and on a 60 sec cooldown

Can I have hallowed ground made into a 60 sec cooldown too?

[Kabooa]

Can I have hallowed ground made into a 60 sec cooldown too?

Sure, but you can only use it while dead.

[Jukebox12]

Can I have hallowed ground made into a 60 sec cooldown too?

Make it two mins

[Eli85]

Whelp, I do not think BLM needs Raise, but even accepting that premise, consuming a Foul stack to use it just promotes incredibly inefficient play. If we're really stuck on BLM needs some utility thang (we don't), there are much better options out there.

[EllieShadeflare]

At best, the question for Black Mage and its identity is: "How do we boost Black Mage's damage without skyrocketing it into a forced meta?" Giving it utility functions would hamper BLM even more than it would Samurai because our entire rotation is based on our GCD. No oGCD attacks, and the only usage of our oGCD is on buffs like Enochian and Leylines.

Support options work better on say, Red Mage and Summoner, since a chunk of their rotation relies on oGCD, and isn't heavily reliant on the GCD anyway. Hell, Red Mage could use something to do between their Dual Casts, but that's just me.

[Kabooa]

Having a rule for ability use (Can't be used while casting a spell) means having exceptions makes them that much more notable (CAN be used while casting a spell).

Iaijutsu didn't need to be a cast time GCD, but doing so on a class that otherwise has nothing but instant on the move skills sets a certain tone and weight within it.

Black Mage's unique ability / abilities can break the rule. They -could- be used while casting a spell.

[EllieShadeflare]

Having a rule for ability use (Can't be used while casting a spell) means having exceptions makes them that much more notable (CAN be used while casting a spell).

Iaijutsu didn't need to be a cast time GCD, but doing so on a class that otherwise has nothing but instant on the move skills sets a certain tone and weight within it.

Black Mage's unique ability / abilities can break the rule. They -could- be used while casting a spell.

This is irrelevant when YoshiP decided that Foul wouldn't do that, and would be on the GCD despite having a separate casting condition from the other spells. Besides the point, our "rule breaking" already involves our bread and butter spell exceeding the GCD in terms of cast time. Not to mention, if YoshiP added Raise to Black Mage, you can expect Fire IV to go all the way down to 240 potency, Fire III to be 200 potency, Fire to be 150, and their counterparts in the Blizzard spell list to follow suit.

And before anyone says I'm over exaggerating, let me remind you all that for Fire/Blizzard and Fire III/Blizzard III, the potencies I used as examples were their original, pre-Heavensward potencies. They could easily revert all of our potencies down to such a low level just from Raise ALONE.

[Shurrikhan]

Exactly.

The only possible utility the BLM should get is a limited magic vulnerability debuff.
Similarly to SAM and it's slashing debuff.

Perhaps tied to Blizzard II or Freeze.

There might be a reason that only one vuln type is shared, and by the majority of all users, no extent between...

Why give BLM a Contagion, let alone one they can permanently keep up? And with those applying spell choices, it would merely go towards padding SMN dps during AoE if too short a time for a full Fire AoE rotation...

[Kabooa]

And before anyone says I'm over exaggerating, let me remind you all that for Fire/Blizzard and Fire III/Blizzard III, the potencies I used as examples were their original, pre-Heavensward potencies. They could easily revert all of our potencies down to such a low level just from Raise ALONE.

I don't see Summoner losing their potencies for having raise.

And my point wasn't about raise. It was about solving the inherent issue of Black Mage being GCD locked.

Also you're over exaggerating.