Bleeding Ifrit again...

[Meow_Zedong]

What's that supposed to mean?

Sorry, little Fabul server in-joke, I meant it in jest and have no real opinion towards Abaddon because I've never interacted with you guys (minus a few jerks I've since blisted)


Allow me to back-peddle a bit. I didn't mean to say that you can't beat him as ARC at all, you certainly can beat Ifrit with other setups than the 5 to 6 LNC setup. There are a few problems with ARC, however. The first is that ARC attack animations are longer than those for other classes. (That is once you consider that ARC will be basically doing all weapon skills. Compare those animations to the auto-attack animation from LNC for example.) Arc also cannot take damage as well as other DD classes, those two things combined make ARC extremely difficult to play well in the Ifrit battle. Compound that with not having the other highly recommended skills like Rampart and Sentinal and, well, the ARC is gonna be screwed.

I will definitely give you that it is more difficult to beat it as an Archer then as something else. It is definitely less efficient as well. But my point is, it is not nearly as hard as a lot of people say it is, and if you are with friends or a good LS they will not exclude you because of a loss of efficiency. Winning with archers is entirely do-able, and anyone that tells you otherwise hasn't really tried it.

If someone is continually dieing from Ifrit while playing Archer, it is not really the games fault more than it is the player's inability to adapt. That's all I mean.

[Molly_Millions]

If someone is continually dieing from Ifrit while playing Archer, it is not really the games fault more than it is the player's inability to adapt. That's all I mean.

Since you seem to be implying that beating Ifrit is possible with only ARC to 50, what ARC skill do you use to deal with Hellfire? (I think that's hellfire anyway, the AOE after you drop a spike.) Although it seems like I'm asking just to be a jackass, I'm asking in earnest because my roommate has only ARC to 50.

[TheVedis]

Since you seem to be implying that beating Ifrit is possible with only ARC to 50, what ARC skill do you use to deal with Hellfire? (I think that's hellfire anyway, the AOE after you drop a spike.)

+hp in your gear, and just being capped off when it happens

[Molly_Millions]

+hp in your gear, and just being capped off when it happens

How much hp would you recommend?

[TheVedis]

How much hp would you recommend?

the hit does 2600, so the more the better, id suggest basicaly putting into any peice where you dont have some overly important other materia to put it in(such as str in hands/weapon)
like, you may want hp in your belt, head, feet, as a dd class, thats at least 360 more hp right there which is more then you need to live through it if you arent half dead when he uses it(keeping yourself healed is pretty important too in alot o aspects)

[Meow_Zedong]

Since you seem to be implying that beating Ifrit is possible with only ARC to 50, what ARC skill do you use to deal with Hellfire? (I think that's hellfire anyway, the AOE after you drop a spike.) Although it seems like I'm asking just to be a jackass, I'm asking in earnest because my roommate has only ARC to 50.

Well if really the only thing you have leveled up is Archer, then yeah you will probably die. It's possible to survive through the use of HP+ materia, but dieing in that situation is pretty likely. Still pretty easy to win the battle though. The mage will revive you when he has the chance and all you have to do is make sure to wait until an opportune time to come back.

Or if everyone knows you won't survive before the battle starts then an alternative strategy can be put into motion, such as going after all 4 nails, or crafter stunning him.