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  1. #1111
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    Krausus's Avatar
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    Krausus Dracul
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    Famfrit
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    Ninja Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by indira View Post
    i'd be pissed if theres a server roll back, i got almost all my levels solo or in a old school grind party. you know who didnt earn there 50's where there clueless in a party like mages who get aggro then run away, tanks who dont have a at least 1 hate grabber on there action bar, theres some people who wont party unless its a power leveling party.

    by the time version 2.0 comes around there are going to be people playing now are going to be selling accounts and we'll still have noobs with all lv50s and they never touched that game before.

    SE is just going to be shooting there self in the foot if they dont make some kind of checks & balences in the game. right now its free for all people will just get bored when they can get everything in the first week or two everytime they release content, i remember in FFXI it took ages to get everything and when you finshed something you actually felt good about it.

    My con was PL'd from 20 to 40 I grinded the rest of the levels in SH, I main healed Ifrit just fine with no deaths and all kills. None of the classes are hard to learn, you can learn everything you need to know about a class from 40-50 which usually you have to grind out. I know some people just do not learn quickly or just leached all the way to 50 but dont put everyone that was PL'ed into the same catagory.
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  2. #1112
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    Smashington's Avatar
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    Gnu Who
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    Hyperion
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    Well Isaac, I'm thinking this thread is here is the final hope for a FFXIV that I would enjoy.

    The challenging party battles and feeling of accomplishment while leveing up that I remember so fondly from FFXI is simply not present on FFXIV at the current time.

    It actually seems as if a majority of players prefers to skip the leveling process entirely, and focus on a more arcade version of an MMO where you dodge exploding floors and time your attacks to coincide with questionable animations. I can understand, I just don't agree.

    The game does not run smoothly enough to be headed in the arcade type direction. I feel that they would really need completely different gameplay mechanics than what the new design team has to work with to accomplish the direction they are headed.

    It seems to me that games that are created from the ground up for arcade style gameplay will function better and simply be more fun that than a basically turn-based game that has been retooled for faster action.

    I don't find the available end-game content that interesting or enjoyable. If PL'ing is not removed, such that regular EXP partyies (which include leveling up!) return as a main focus of gameplay, and parties become more easily created and regularly available, I just don't see what FFXIV has to offer that isn't done far better in other games.
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  3. #1113
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    syntaxlies's Avatar
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    Syntax Lies
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    Hyperion
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    Leatherworker Lv 50
    omg, PL broken, i hope they fix it.
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  4. #1114
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    Shneibel Panipahr
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    Excalibur
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    Alchemist Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Arximiro View Post
    I agree, those who say it doesn't affect others really don't understand how humans, the world, or life works. Either that or they are putting the situation in a box because they like the easy exp. It's a pretty common method to defending things that you like but you know that are wrong.

    Just to add another voice to this I really think it should take 1-3 months to get a class to the max level, depending on playtime restrictions.
    at my thread request for Exp reduce where I suggest the party grind /class should be 2-3 weeks for party grind and I already got ton of flame toward me and here you suggest for 1-3 months, make me happy ya know ?
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  5. #1115
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    Majidah's Avatar
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    Majidah Sihaam
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    Balmung
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    Archer Lv 50
    I wish we'd get all re-rolled and they'd turn the exp curve back to it was when we started. Old school ffxi curve.

    Then they'd just need to dish out more exp for each quest you complete and players who didn't want to grind would have reasons to do a lot more stuff...
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  6. #1116
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    Rowyne's Avatar
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    Rowyne Olde
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    Balmung
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    Conjurer Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Majidah View Post
    I wish we'd get all re-rolled and they'd turn the exp curve back to it was when we started. Old school ffxi curve.

    Then they'd just need to dish out more exp for each quest you complete and players who didn't want to grind would have reasons to do a lot more stuff...
    I would be just fine with that.

  7. #1117
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    Kyra's Avatar
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    Kyra Narese
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    Hyperion
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    Lancer Lv 70
    There is a certain place you can be PL'ed from 40-50 in about 1 hour 30 mins, 2 hours at the most.... its fine for people that have already done the boring grind with other classes and dont wish to go though that again and have also completed all the other content as I have. What i dont like is new players being PL'ed before they have even got a class to 50 themselfs or done most of the content already. We have members in our LS that are pretty new and now take this being PL to 50 for granted.
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  8. #1118
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    Kytheren Kenni
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    Seraph
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    Red Mage Lv 97
    Quote Originally Posted by Kyra View Post
    There is a certain place you can be PL'ed from 40-50 in about 1 hour 30 mins, 2 hours at the most.... its fine for people that have already done the boring grind with other classes and dont wish to go though that again and have also completed all the other content as I have. What i dont like is new players being PL'ed before they have even got a class to 50 themselfs or done most of the content already. We have members in our LS that are pretty new and now take this being PL to 50 for granted.
    This is called having your cake and eating it, too. In my opinion, there is no gray area. Either you do it or you don't. And I look down on anyone who does it at all. I'll openly admit it, I am hateful in that respect.
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  9. #1119
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    Kymusashi's Avatar
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    Valkirin Soryu
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    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 50
    40-50 is more about how broken grinding is in this game now. At that point, it's not really a PL, sicne it doesn't involve any underhanded tricks. AoE rage grinding is just the way to go at 40+, and it works all too well. The other issue is that sometimes not doing it can really spell your doom, based on the came area.

    Not being fast at kills with the new 2 minute pop system can become a big issue. I think SE needs to look at rebalancing a bunch of elements if they want to really try to curb what is going on. It's not as simple as just changing the claim system or xp equation.
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  10. #1120
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    Sephrick Markarius
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    Excalibur
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    Gladiator Lv 70
    The challenging party battles and feeling of accomplishment while leveing up that I remember so fondly from FFXI is simply not present on FFXIV at the current time.
    You must've had a different version of XI than I did, because there wasn't a single battle in exp that was ever challenging.
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