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  1. #1011
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    Frein Mannis
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reika View Post
    As I say for every patch after playing myself, there's no way they tested it all, or else they probably would have found it and changed it before WE got to it. OR perhaps it was their intent on making PL'ing that easy, cept too many people complained about it.
    Well, we know they're going break-neck speed and probably cut every corner they can, however, I think in this case the devs simply failed (again) to anticipate player behaviour, perhaps putting too much faith in the assumption that the playerbase as a whole will approach the game the same way the devs themselves would. This despite the fact that they themselves are only a small sample size and represent only one cultural group out of many.

    This is why it's always important to align the players' interests with what's good for the game. The PL epidemic was a result of players chasing personal benefit at the cost of the integrity of the game as a whole. People were essentially shooting themselves in the foot, but the dev team was to blame for creating an environment that rewarded such actions, not the players themselves. Players seek to advance in the game the same way a current always takes the path of least resistance, yet some posters foolishly threw around accusations of hypocrisy when players who engaged in PL themselves questioned the legitimacy of the activity.
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    Last edited by Frein; 10-14-2011 at 08:23 AM.

  2. #1012
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    Cascade Taiga
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    you can't "afk" PL no more the high lvl can't be in the party
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  3. #1013
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cascade View Post
    you can't "afk" PL no more the high lvl can't be in the party
    1)Low level hits(Claims) mobs
    2)High level Aoe Kill mobs
    3)????
    4)Profit!

    With this setup you could PL a full party.
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  4. #1014
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    Khaien Akiyama
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    I would be interested to hear how the new PL exp compares to regular party exp, and the broken PL exp per hour.
    If it's only slightly greater than a regular party then I won't worry about it at all. Hopefully parties won't all drag along a PL and I can have the kind of group I like. X3 I always got a little upset in FFXI when I was White Mage and some dude came along to steal my job. How rude. :x lol

    Or I could make my own group... if only I knew good camps. :x

    I wonder how new PLing will work though... Just like XI? Curing from outside party? Or something we haven't considered.
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    ~She gave her heart to a falling star~
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    If he's not here, then where?
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  5. #1015
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joeking View Post
    1)Low level hits(Claims) mobs
    2)High level Aoe Kill mobs
    3)????
    4)Profit!
    that works if the high lvl is out of the party
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  6. #1016
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cascade View Post
    that works if the high lvl is out of the party
    Yep, so not much change since you can just get the bulkiest low level to tag monsters with an aoe attack then high level can aoe them down and party would get full exp! So you can have 7 afk's and 1 in the party tagging and a high level to kill the monsters.

    So as i see it, the QQ isn't over yet.
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  7. #1017
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    Kytheren Kenni
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joeking View Post
    Yep, so not much change since you can just get the bulkiest low level to tag monsters with an aoe attack then high level can aoe them down and party would get full exp! So you can have 7 afk's and 1 in the party tagging and a high level to kill the monsters.
    For the love of god, we need to test this to make sure it doesn't work. -.-
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  8. #1018
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    Reinheart Valentine
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    So anyone tried PL yet after the 1.19a? lol

    Quote Originally Posted by Smile View Post
    R50のキャラとR28のキャラで組んでR42敵を倒しました。
    Killed a R42 mob with a R50 and R28.

    R50のキャラには経験値100 - R50 gained 100 exp
    R28のキャラには経験値0 - R28 gained 0 exp
    Maybe he/she was in PT wonder how it is now lol
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  9. #1019
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    Quote Originally Posted by Issac View Post
    For the love of god, we need to test this to make sure it doesn't work. -.-
    It will work .

    Considering in this game KS'ing just helps get the person your KS'ing exp faster while you get nothing and in other MMO's the exp is divided by the damage dealt to the target. Claiming it but doing 0 damage means you get no exp and the KS'er gets 0 exp since you claimed it.
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    Last edited by Joeking; 10-14-2011 at 08:38 AM.

  10. #1020
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    Travesty Eidolon
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    Coeurl
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joeking View Post
    It will work .
    I don't think it will work that well actually. Every mob in this game has a ranged attack that will, I believe, hit the person with initial aggro before the PLer can get aggro. So if the low level is tagging too many mobs or ones that are too high level, they'll just get stomped.

    I could be wrong, but I certainly think it'll be much harder than before.
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