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  1. #81
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    Fyce's Avatar
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    Fyce Alvey
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    Cerberus
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krotoan View Post
    There are already high levels who come in, kill maybe 3 different NMS including pazuzu then leave. This is a thing. They don't want piddling low level NMS or anything that doesn't get them optimal crystals and lockboxes.
    A 15 solo would be better off leeching off the high levels, the low levels would likely rather get XP as they try to spawn things. If they band together it's to HOPE that they can do better than alone.
    Killing Pazuzu and leaving in hopes to join a new instance won't be a thing if instances aren't full, as you'd likely join the same mostly empty instance you just left.
    So they'll either join, kill Pazuzu and leave without coming back (meaning that the instance won't scale up for more than 10 minutes), or they'll do lower level Fates while waiting for the next window.

    Quote Originally Posted by Krotoan View Post
    A party wipe post level 6 will be DEVASTATING. All you'd have left at that point is HOPING that some level 20 will peel off and come help. otherwise hours of work would be gone. This is not how I want to play this game. I will concede others may like it, but I will vote no every time to this kind of mechanic.
    That's a git gud issue and common sense of not fighting things that may make you wipe. Besides, you won't have to deal with bad culling or idiots pulling random trash to the group, making fates way easier.
    And even if you do wipe, all it takes is one person to take the penalty and come to raise the others. Sucks for that player, but it's not the end of the world. And if you took a played below 6, then no penalties for you as long as that player has a job able to raise or a phoenix down. "DEVASTATING" is not how I would put it.

    Anyway, you are not giving me the feeling that my points were reassuring at all, so I'll take my leave and simply say "let's wait and see".
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  2. #82
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    Stormfur's Avatar
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    Hex Pathcrosser
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    Leviathan
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    Dragoon Lv 72
    You have to remember, guys, that Eureka was probably completed MONTHS ago. Right now, the dev team is working on who-knows-what for probably patch 4.5 or maybe even 5.0 at this point. So they are concentrating on other things. Eureka sounds like this area that was full of promise and potential, but maybe got shelved for other priorities. And when its time came, it was probably pushed out to give us "something" to chew on while other content is being developed. They had to make it a grind to fill the time before the next patches.

    Now, let me say that I *love* the area design. There are places on the island that are downright beautiful, mysterious and treacherous. I *so* want to gather where those big green crystals are socked into the trees.

    It's just that...they boasted Eureka as something new and innovative they wanted to try, but there's nothing there that we don't have outside of Eureka, beyond the magia board. And while it's useful for NMs, it's not that big of a deal with smaller mobs. I find myself forgetting to adjust it all the time. It seems more like a hindrance than a help.
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  3. #83
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    Ayer2015's Avatar
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    Ayer Austen
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    Faerie
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    I honestly expected content with more depth. I distinctly remember the devs saying that Eureka was its own content and relics were just added to it. which is clearly not the case. The only reason to do Eureka is an extremely weak and short story and relics. While I enjoyed the content for what it was, it will not be long lasting content and it felt underwhelming in relation to what I wanted from it. I suppose the devs being so tight lipped about it was a clear indication of what was to be expected.
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  4. #84
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    Lord_Zlatan's Avatar
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    Zlatan Tarrant
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    Famfrit
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    as to the issue of death being devastating if a party wipes... I honestly think 90% of the fun is surviving the road from NM to NM, even with the meat shield of the NM train in front of you. Tether for example on RDM is incredibly useful in Eureka. Sleep works in the same fashion
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  5. #85
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    Krotoan Argaviel
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fyce View Post
    That's a git gud issue and common sense of not fighting things that may make you wipe.
    ... Except doing content relevant to your level in Eureka all has the chance of wiping you. Or someone could train something too big onto you, which is a whole 'nother ball of wax I'd be glad to tear apart if you'd like.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fyce View Post
    Anyway, you are not giving me the feeling that my points were reassuring at all, so I'll take my leave and simply say "let's wait and see".
    Indeed we'll have to wait and see if it's truly as bad as I think. But for now I HAVE to play because if it is as bad as I think , there will be little I can do to catch up. This means I will continue to complain and present cases for this to be fixed unless I get a response that assuages my fears beyond depending on people not being horrible.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord_Zlatan View Post
    as to the issue of death being devastating if a party wipes... I honestly think 90% of the fun is surviving the road from NM to NM, even with the meat shield of the NM train in front of you. Tether for example on RDM is incredibly useful in Eureka. Sleep works in the same fashion
    your "fun" is my "reason to quit FFXI".
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  6. #86
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    Soon as I saw the word Diadem mentioned in a thread/LL/etc from the devs about Eureka, I immediately dialed my expectations way down.
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  7. #87
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    Reynhart Kristensen
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    Ragnarok
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krotoan View Post
    your "fun" is my "reason to quit FFXI".
    That's why we'll never ask XIV to design all its content with that mindset. But, having one of them providing this kind of feeling is somehow "refreshing".
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  8. #88
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    Nothing. I honest to god didn't expect anything or look forward to it at all.

    Aaannndddd I was still disappointed.
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  9. #89
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    TristanBlane's Avatar
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    Crucius Lapin
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    Siren
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    Astrologian Lv 70
    I was expecting something I could run solo as well, do some treasure hunting and exploring. Really immerse myself in the world. Some fun daily quests would've been cool. instead I'm running through the forest with my tail between my legs trying not to get one shot by some level 17 monster so I can get to a fate and zerg down some monster with 100 other people in hopes of leveling fast enough to keep up and get loot boxes for dumb things that I want :/
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  10. #90
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    Usho's Avatar
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    Masahiro Kido
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    Excalibur
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormfur View Post
    You have to remember, guys, that Eureka was probably completed MONTHS ago. Right now, the dev team is working on who-knows-what for probably patch 4.5 or maybe even 5.0 at this point. So they are concentrating on other things maybe got shelved for other priorities. And when its time came, it was probably pushed out to give us "something" to chew on while other content is being developed. They had to make it a grind to fill the time before the next patches.
    Please don't make excuses for them. They had over a year to work this. I would have rather waited a bit longer for a complete and "better" Eureka then the sh*t they gave us.

    For content they had kept pushing back over and over and over again, you'd think that when they release it, it would be "awesome" "amazingly well done" for the amount of time it took to make, but it isn't. Place has bugs still, the recent "rollback issue". This was rushed and it shows. Bugs for something that took over a year to finish should have had its bugs fixed BEFORE it's release. But even if it didn't have bugs, this content is still trash. It's a reskinned diadem with a crap leveling system and meh relic tied to it. Not to mention the really bad zergfest with the soul draining grind that would make even ffxi devs shake their heads at.

    They have NO excuse for this mess. Old school korean style grinding in this era and in this game in particular is a recipe for disaster and shows in the culling, the fps, the massive lag with over a 100+ people fighting a single NM. Can't even see the damn NM nor the damn attacks cause the framerate is so bad there with all those people. Even on a high end pc, it is still bad there. The devs and yoshi-p screwed up big with this mess and it's almost unforgivable since me and others waited for a long time for this.

    They promised it wouldn't be diadem and surprise! It is.


    GG
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    Last edited by Usho; 03-20-2018 at 12:18 AM.

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