What's your first impression of Eureka?

[Kaonis]

At least 90 pages out of 96 pages are just pointless ranting or some suggestions turning Eureka into another Diadem/instant noodle content.
By the way, this thread do not represent 80% of FF14 of playerbase.

[citation needed]

So you want them to come up with new gameplay solutions to all the issues people have spoken about... in three days?
People complain about how much time they needed to release Eureka, and you want them to revisit basically everything... in three days?

Talk about unrealistic expectations.

I never said any of that. You're being entirely dishonest.

[Fyce]

I never said any of that. You're being entirely dishonest.

You assumed that what people complained about are "core issues" which need to be solved. This has yet to be determined, both in terms of accuracy and scale. You also assumed that the complains were coming from "the vast majority". You said that there was a "severe lack of communication" even when SE said and proved that they were listening to feedback.
The community has a pretty big history of screwing things up because a vocal minority blowed things out of proportions. For one person complaining about Eureka, there are dozens who actually play it and are fine with it. What you are basically asking is that SE completly ignore these players and focus blindly on the ones who agree with your views.

Give them some time to analyze everything and get back to us is my point. If you want them to rush it, it'll be crap.
But I guess asking people to be reasonable is too much.

[Kaonis]

You assumed that what people complained about are "core issues" which need to be solved. This has yet to be determined, both in terms of accuracy and scale. You also assumed that the complains were coming from "the vast majority". You said that there was a "severe lack of communication" even when SE said and proved that they were listening to feedback.
The community has a pretty big history of screwing things up because a vocal minority blowed things out of proportions. For one person complaining about Eureka, there are dozens who actually play it and are fine with it. What you are basically asking is that SE completly ignore these players and focus blindly on the ones who agree with your views.

Give them some time to analyze everything and get back to us is my point. If you want them to rush it, it'll be crap.

I assumed nothing. I've read posts and posted my complaints as well. You've been doing a lot of disingenuous generalization and misrepresentation of those who are rightfully upset with Eureka.

You also assume the people who like Eureka are the majority yet provide no evidence outside maybe that some people are doing it. But even in this very thread there has been people who stated they hate it but are only doing it because they know it will die off soon and it will be hard to catch up. The same happened with both versions of Diadem as people rushed to do it to get the rewards before it died off rapidly, all the while stating how much they hated what we got. And there is a severe lack of communication if there are a dozen threads about how Eureka is a Diadem clone and just not fun, yet the only thing we get any acknowledgement of is about excess fireworks in lockboxes. I'm not asking for them to address a whole redesign, I'm asking for the simplest acknowledgement that they know people are complaining about more than just some stupid fireworks.

The devs have a long history of screwing up; see Diadem both times. And again you have no proof it's the vocal minority. And again you misrepresent what I have said to fit the narrative you want.

I highlighted your last sentence because it is probably the most ironic thing I've seen someone write in my life. Eureka took 17 months, it was delayed and literally not rushed yet is crap. We were told they had learned from Diadem and would give us something new. This is not new, it is Diadem for the third time.

[Ruf]

I assumed nothing. I've read posts and posted my complaints as well. You've been doing a lot of disingenuous generalization and misrepresentation of those who are rightfully upset with Eureka.

You also assume the people who like Eureka are the majority yet provide no evidence outside maybe that some people are doing it. But even in this very thread there has been people who stated they hate it but are only doing it because they know it will die off soon and it will be hard to catch up. The same happened with both versions of Diadem as people rushed to do it to get the rewards before it died off rapidly, all the while stating how much they hated what we got. And there is a severe lack of communication if there are a dozen threads about how Eureka is a Diadem clone and just not fun, yet the only thing we get any acknowledgement of is about excess fireworks in lockboxes. I'm not asking for them to address a whole redesign, I'm asking for the simplest acknowledgement that they know people are complaining about more than just some stupid fireworks.

The devs have a long history of screwing up; see Diadem both times. And again you have no proof it's the vocal minority. And again you misrepresent what I have said to fit the narrative you want.

I highlighted your last sentence because it is probably the most ironic thing I've seen someone write in my life. Eureka took 17 months, it was delayed and literally not rushed yet is crap. We were told they had learned from Diadem and would give us something new. This is not new, it is Diadem for the third time.

Theres facts & comments about all of this & yet ppl still try to claim the route this game is taking is proper, Idk numbers I can't claim that the population is as little as this or as high as that but I sure can say that.

Nah. Things like party members disappearing or being unable to target the boss mob have been around since 2.0 at the very least. They cherry pick what to reply to/about.

This comment seems true to me, Oh look, a fate! <,<

[Divinemights]

I assumed nothing. I've read posts and posted my complaints as well. You've been doing a lot of disingenuous generalization and misrepresentation of those who are rightfully upset with Eureka.
You also assume the people who like Eureka are the majority yet provide no evidence outside maybe that some people are doing it.

You are the one that is making assumption here.
I am not blind, Eureka zone is always near capacity of 144 at prime time.
Define your "maybe some people are doing it"
Here is trick you don't know.
When you pull up player search in the Eureka zone, it will show you the list of players in the zone including the name and number.

[Ruf]

You are the one that is making assumption here.
I am not blind, Eureka zone is always near capacity of 144 at prime time.
Define your "maybe some people are doing it"
Here is trick you don't know.
When you pull up player search in the Eureka zone, it will show you the list of players in the zone including the name and number.

You are missing on the highlight of what was said DM

people who stated they hate it but are only doing it because they know it will die off soon and it will be hard to catch up. The same happened with both versions of Diadem as people rushed to do it to get the rewards before it died off rapidly, all the while stating how much they hated what we got..

Doing something to not get left behind is what give a hard cap to instances "in theory" & on the practical aspect of it welcome lag for everyone!

Why do we do this? I cant speak for others, but me, I will do content I do not really like just to play with friends. (Oh! similarity to housing!,Players not wanting to change server because they want to stay with their friends & have access to their wards/plots!) Oh look a fate!

[Kaonis]

You are the one that is making assumption here.
I am not blind, Eureka zone is always near capacity of 144 at prime time.
Define your "maybe some people are doing it"
Here is trick you don't know.
When you pull up player search in the Eureka zone, it will show you the list of players in the zone including the name and number.

How? What assumptions are you claiming I am making? I don't think you have actually read most of the comments on this topic. And speaking of not reading...

I am not blind, Eureka zone is always near capacity of 144 at prime time.
Define your "maybe some people are doing it"
Here is trick you don't know.
When you pull up player search in the Eureka zone, it will show you the list of players in the zone including the name and number.

You are cherry picking my post. How do I know this? Because in that same post of mine you quoted in literally the next line I go on to explain how people doing it =/= people liking it.

This is dishonest, plain and simple. Either learn to make a proper argument or go home.

[Lord_Umbra]

You are the one that is making assumption here.
I am not blind, Eureka zone is always near capacity of 144 at prime time.
Define your "maybe some people are doing it"
Here is trick you don't know.
When you pull up player search in the Eureka zone, it will show you the list of players in the zone including the name and number.

It's easy to always be populated when draw from the entire Datacenter for each region & when still relatively new content/ people still grinding the relic but now people getting Pazuzu we'll probably start seeing higher levels drop out soon.
Also give it a little longer Diadem wasn't dropped in a few days it dropped by around end of first month.

Eureka already suffers from S/A-Rank issues of early pulling thanks mounts/the aethers people aren't waiting more then a minute in my last couple of runs of Eureka, then other issues like your team mates vanishing & mobs vanishing, lag killing you as a invisible mob AOE someone & near that someone.

[Ruf]

It's easy to always be populated when draw from the entire Datacenter for each region & when still relatively new content/ people still grinding the relic but now people getting Pazuzu we'll probably start seeing higher levels drop out soon.
Also give it a little longer Diadem wasn't dropped in a few days it dropped by around end of first month.

Eureka already suffers from S/A-Rank issues of early pulling thanks mounts/the aethers people aren't waiting more then a minute in my last couple of runs of Eureka, then other issues like your team mates vanishing & mobs vanishing, lag killing you as a invisible mob AOE someone & near that someone.

I did not think of this lmfao, Soooooo true

[Claviusnex]

then other issues like your team mates vanishing & mobs vanishing, lag killing you as a invisible mob AOE someone & near that someone.

Then the NPC reappears out of nowhere right on top of you and you're dead.