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    Quote Originally Posted by MilanFrozen View Post
    Talk about misrepresenting an argument. Where do you even see him say he's looking for a solution. All he's saying is that they didn't even acknowledge that there were any other problems.
    It takes time to review feedback and actually decide if what players are reporting is true, or simply stuff blowing out or proportion. They also have to decide what portion of the community they will not please (because they can't please everyone, which is common sense), meaning that they need to review actual data of people actually enjoying the content.

    Before saying that you aknowledge problems, you have to decide wether or not these problems exist in the first place, and if so, if you are capable of solving them.

    Again, expecting them to be able to do all in three days is completly unrealistic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fyce View Post
    It takes time to review feedback and actually decide if what players are reporting is true, or simply stuff blowing out or proportion. They also have to decide what portion of the community they will not please (because they can't please everyone, which is common sense), meaning that they need to review actual data of people actually enjoying the content.

    Before saying that you aknowledge problems, you have to decide wether or not these problems exist in the first place, and if so, if you are capable of solving them.

    Again, expecting them to be able to do all in three days is completly unrealistic.
    Nah. Things like party members disappearing or being unable to target the boss mob have been around since 2.0 at the very least. They cherry pick what to reply to/about.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MilanFrozen View Post
    Nah. Things like party members disappearing or being unable to target the boss mob have been around since 2.0 at the very least. They cherry pick what to reply to/about.
    Why do you assume that they can reply to everything to begin with? Maybe they simply have no clue how to solve that issue. Maybe they will be able to have a better look at it on a later date, which means that saying anything about it if the situation changes is pointless.
    Or maybe they think that since it'll resolve itself when less and less people will do Eureka, that it's not worth adressing. I mean, aren't people saying that "Eureka will die like Diadem did"? That's a rhetorical question.

    And you are yourself cherry picking that particular issue which isn't really related to Eureka itself but is a known game engine issue. You are willingly ignoring all the other actual Eureka feedback which takes time to review just to make your point.

    I mean, the lastest issue about people using Ungarmax was covered in great details by Yoshi-P himself, who made really long posts explaining everything he could. It was really good communication. So I don't think it's fair to assume that they don't want to communicate. It's most likely that they can't, because of a lot of reasons such as uncertainty and the time it takes to review that kind of stuff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fyce View Post
    Why do you assume that they can reply to everything to begin with? Maybe they simply have no clue how to solve that issue. Maybe they will be able to have a better look at it on a later date, which means that saying anything about it if the situation changes is pointless.
    Or maybe they think that since it'll resolve itself when less and less people will do Eureka, that it's not worth adressing. I mean, aren't people saying that "Eureka will die like Diadem did"? That's a rhetorical question.And you are yourself cherry picking that particular issue which isn't really related to Eureka itself but is a known game engine issue. You are willingly ignoring all the other actual Eureka feedback which takes time to review just to make your point.

    I mean, the lastest issue about people using Ungarmax was covered in great details by Yoshi-P himself, who made really long posts explaining everything he could. It was really good communication. So I don't think it's fair to assume that they don't want to communicate. It's most likely that they can't, because of a lot of reasons such as uncertainty and the time it takes to review that kind of stuff.
    Do you have an idea of what happened to xi with years? there is but a small improvement on our end (the community) to the ratio of enix perception of improvement imo. Yes Apologies are nice, yes they are acknowledging us, and in some case there is positive results, but if you want to speak about core problems, well let me have at it. The core problem of the issues is...........drumrolls...... Game Patches to an expansion pack!.That is something mmo games do as a generalized statement, & if I pinpoint our ff chitchat here well that started before xiv, I personally wasn't happy with it when it became more popular to outdate content, but ill say this at least back then there was a feeling of success upon clearing content of a patch like hmmm idk unlocking a zone from uuuuhhhh wiping the same fight over & over & over again for 1month+ to gain access? That was achievement & it stood as a retained feeling, nowadays you can buy a % of content cleared,not to mention a false number..., welcome mandragora buds in eureka! I mean to defend this as I cant fully bash, I understand this for a second character but even there I walked the long path for it. I have seen the player base getting crushed over several years & enjoyable content getting destroyed to add discountinuation juuust like irl with cheap products that see the light to this day, cheaper production cost wise, faster breaking, just a better look at that in the end, lets just say that a washing machine will end up shredding you some new glamours.

    Ps:Back in the days a washing machine would last 20years (On paper now more than 75%imo (I could be wrong... as I'm unallowed specific numbers & Who am I to speak right? Not to say 90/98%+) Most washing machine are worth like 7years (electronical) I wont give prices but in the end this is just to say that for a little bit more you could get one that last 20years with 5 years warranty, but because most ppl wanna pay less (& doing maths its not worth it) because ppl dont want to pay a bit more then they get a machine that last 7years & on the long run they pay more & they only get 2years of warranty. (Why the example? Because its soo nice to have your washing machine break 7years later & then of course you try to repair it & it doesn't work because its the whole electronic board that is programmed against you, while the good old washing machine that you threw in the trash way back would of been simply fixed for another 10years) or you know pay 100$ more for x3 the lifetime of an electronic machine with a brand new manual one
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fyce View Post
    Why do you assume that they can reply to everything to begin with? Maybe they simply have no clue how to solve that issue. Maybe they will be able to have a better look at it on a later date, which means that saying anything about it if the situation changes is pointless.
    Or maybe they think that since it'll resolve itself when less and less people will do Eureka, that it's not worth adressing. I mean, aren't people saying that "Eureka will die like Diadem did"? That's a rhetorical question.

    And you are yourself cherry picking that particular issue which isn't really related to Eureka itself but is a known game engine issue. You are willingly ignoring all the other actual Eureka feedback which takes time to review just to make your point.

    I mean, the lastest issue about people using Ungarmax was covered in great details by Yoshi-P himself, who made really long posts explaining everything he could. It was really good communication. So I don't think it's fair to assume that they don't want to communicate. It's most likely that they can't, because of a lot of reasons such as uncertainty and the time it takes to review that kind of stuff.
    Cherry picking met with cherry picking. Couldn't be more appropriate. Also I believe that little cherry you picked suits me just fine as it is not evidence they do read, but rather evidence they react slowly as that little LB was utilized for a very long time before any reply was made. Lets take a look shall we?

    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...ies-by-any-job

    Hmmm..4 months? Yes that is an exceptionally slow time for a response to something so powerful. But thank you for sinking your own ship.
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