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  1. #981
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fazraye View Post
    Thank you all for you feedback on the Forbidden Land, Eureka Anemos.

    After reviewing comments we received from users worldwide, we have decided to implement the following changes to Eureka lockboxes and their rewards in a hotfix scheduled for the end of March.
    - Eureka potions will be added as possible rewards.
    - The rate at which fireworks are awarded will be reduced.
    - Various gear, as well as the Wicked Winds Whisper and No Quarter orchestrion rolls will no longer be untradable and may be put up for sale.

    Please be advised that the lockboxes obtained prior to this hotfix but opened afterwards will be affected by the above changes.
    The Potions are interesting I guess.
    I'm glad the fireworks rate will be reduced. For a Lv70 loot table those should not be so common
    I'm so glad the glamour will finally be tradable! That was my biggest issue with Eureka

    Also the changes the community rep mentioned are just decided changes as of right now. They may (or may not) decide on more later on down the road for those that think there should be other changes.
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    Guildmaster of Power With Numbers (PWN) on Coeurl in Aether.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaonis View Post
    You're being very disingenuous. There, better? Myself and others have made the complaint that they weren't communicating on the core issues. Instead they only address a very minor complaint and give no indication they are even acknowledging what the vast majority of people are upset over. There is a severe lack of proper communication going on, and people are rightfully upset.
    At least 90 pages out of 96 pages are just pointless ranting or some suggestions turning Eureka into another Diadem/instant noodle content.
    By the way, this thread do not represent 80% of FF14 of playerbase.
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  3. #983
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    Quote Originally Posted by MilanFrozen View Post
    Talk about misrepresenting an argument. Where do you even see him say he's looking for a solution. All he's saying is that they didn't even acknowledge that there were any other problems.
    It takes time to review feedback and actually decide if what players are reporting is true, or simply stuff blowing out or proportion. They also have to decide what portion of the community they will not please (because they can't please everyone, which is common sense), meaning that they need to review actual data of people actually enjoying the content.

    Before saying that you aknowledge problems, you have to decide wether or not these problems exist in the first place, and if so, if you are capable of solving them.

    Again, expecting them to be able to do all in three days is completly unrealistic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Divinemights View Post
    At least 90 pages out of 96 pages are just pointless ranting or some suggestions turning Eureka into another Diadem/instant noodle content.
    By the way, this thread do not represent 80% of FF14 of playerbase.
    [citation needed]

    Quote Originally Posted by Fyce View Post
    So you want them to come up with new gameplay solutions to all the issues people have spoken about... in three days?
    People complain about how much time they needed to release Eureka, and you want them to revisit basically everything... in three days?

    Talk about unrealistic expectations.
    I never said any of that. You're being entirely dishonest.
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    Last edited by Kaonis; 03-17-2018 at 03:59 AM.

  5. #985
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaonis View Post
    I never said any of that. You're being entirely dishonest.
    You assumed that what people complained about are "core issues" which need to be solved. This has yet to be determined, both in terms of accuracy and scale. You also assumed that the complains were coming from "the vast majority". You said that there was a "severe lack of communication" even when SE said and proved that they were listening to feedback.
    The community has a pretty big history of screwing things up because a vocal minority blowed things out of proportions. For one person complaining about Eureka, there are dozens who actually play it and are fine with it. What you are basically asking is that SE completly ignore these players and focus blindly on the ones who agree with your views.

    Give them some time to analyze everything and get back to us is my point. If you want them to rush it, it'll be crap.
    But I guess asking people to be reasonable is too much.
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    Last edited by Fyce; 03-17-2018 at 04:28 AM.

  6. #986
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    Here's my piece.

    I've been playing Eureka since it came out. I'm only level 8 though, because, with only two ways to do anything (mindlessly grind mobs or follow the NM choo-choo), there's just not enough to keep me interested for longer than an hour at a time. It would be for the best if we had more activities to do inside Eureka. I'm not saying there needs to be massive changes to Anemos, but I do believe that the future sections of Eureka should definitely have more attention paid to how it can be more enjoyable.

    In the future iterations, we should definitely see more ways of progressing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fyce View Post
    It takes time to review feedback and actually decide if what players are reporting is true, or simply stuff blowing out or proportion. They also have to decide what portion of the community they will not please (because they can't please everyone, which is common sense), meaning that they need to review actual data of people actually enjoying the content.

    Before saying that you aknowledge problems, you have to decide wether or not these problems exist in the first place, and if so, if you are capable of solving them.

    Again, expecting them to be able to do all in three days is completly unrealistic.
    Nah. Things like party members disappearing or being unable to target the boss mob have been around since 2.0 at the very least. They cherry pick what to reply to/about.
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  8. #988
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    I enjoyed Eureka but more needs to be added to it like objectives, non NMs Fates, more exp points, & no more damn sparklers/confetti as rewards in the lock boxes.

    It becomes a lackluster real fast.
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  9. #989
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fyce View Post
    You assumed that what people complained about are "core issues" which need to be solved. This has yet to be determined, both in terms of accuracy and scale. You also assumed that the complains were coming from "the vast majority". You said that there was a "severe lack of communication" even when SE said and proved that they were listening to feedback.
    The community has a pretty big history of screwing things up because a vocal minority blowed things out of proportions. For one person complaining about Eureka, there are dozens who actually play it and are fine with it. What you are basically asking is that SE completly ignore these players and focus blindly on the ones who agree with your views.

    Give them some time to analyze everything and get back to us is my point. If you want them to rush it, it'll be crap.
    I assumed nothing. I've read posts and posted my complaints as well. You've been doing a lot of disingenuous generalization and misrepresentation of those who are rightfully upset with Eureka.

    You also assume the people who like Eureka are the majority yet provide no evidence outside maybe that some people are doing it. But even in this very thread there has been people who stated they hate it but are only doing it because they know it will die off soon and it will be hard to catch up. The same happened with both versions of Diadem as people rushed to do it to get the rewards before it died off rapidly, all the while stating how much they hated what we got. And there is a severe lack of communication if there are a dozen threads about how Eureka is a Diadem clone and just not fun, yet the only thing we get any acknowledgement of is about excess fireworks in lockboxes. I'm not asking for them to address a whole redesign, I'm asking for the simplest acknowledgement that they know people are complaining about more than just some stupid fireworks.

    The devs have a long history of screwing up; see Diadem both times. And again you have no proof it's the vocal minority. And again you misrepresent what I have said to fit the narrative you want.

    I highlighted your last sentence because it is probably the most ironic thing I've seen someone write in my life. Eureka took 17 months, it was delayed and literally not rushed yet is crap. We were told they had learned from Diadem and would give us something new. This is not new, it is Diadem for the third time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaonis View Post
    I assumed nothing. I've read posts and posted my complaints as well. You've been doing a lot of disingenuous generalization and misrepresentation of those who are rightfully upset with Eureka.

    You also assume the people who like Eureka are the majority yet provide no evidence outside maybe that some people are doing it. But even in this very thread there has been people who stated they hate it but are only doing it because they know it will die off soon and it will be hard to catch up. The same happened with both versions of Diadem as people rushed to do it to get the rewards before it died off rapidly, all the while stating how much they hated what we got. And there is a severe lack of communication if there are a dozen threads about how Eureka is a Diadem clone and just not fun, yet the only thing we get any acknowledgement of is about excess fireworks in lockboxes. I'm not asking for them to address a whole redesign, I'm asking for the simplest acknowledgement that they know people are complaining about more than just some stupid fireworks.

    The devs have a long history of screwing up; see Diadem both times. And again you have no proof it's the vocal minority. And again you misrepresent what I have said to fit the narrative you want.

    I highlighted your last sentence because it is probably the most ironic thing I've seen someone write in my life. Eureka took 17 months, it was delayed and literally not rushed yet is crap. We were told they had learned from Diadem and would give us something new. This is not new, it is Diadem for the third time.
    Theres facts & comments about all of this & yet ppl still try to claim the route this game is taking is proper, Idk numbers I can't claim that the population is as little as this or as high as that but I sure can say that.

    Quote Originally Posted by MilanFrozen View Post
    Nah. Things like party members disappearing or being unable to target the boss mob have been around since 2.0 at the very least. They cherry pick what to reply to/about.
    This comment seems true to me, Oh look, a fate! <,<
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    Last edited by Ruf; 03-17-2018 at 05:47 AM.

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