What's your first impression of Eureka?

[Vaer]

Eureka is like if everything is on fire and you are constantly being chased by zombies, and you hope the guy in front of you trips and gets eaten so you can get to the NM without dying.

They really need to fix the culling though. Randomly getting 1 shot and taking damage with no fly text or even a combat log entry is a bummer. This problem has been around for a long time.

[RenOkamiya]

Thank you all for you feedback on the Forbidden Land, Eureka Anemos.

After reviewing comments we received from users worldwide, we have decided to implement the following changes to Eureka lockboxes and their rewards in a hotfix scheduled for the end of March.
- Eureka potions will be added as possible rewards.
- The rate at which fireworks are awarded will be reduced.
- Various gear, as well as the Wicked Winds Whisper and No Quarter orchestrion rolls will no longer be untradable and may be put up for sale.

Please be advised that the lockboxes obtained prior to this hotfix but opened afterwards will be affected by the above changes.

When I see this in a topic like this one, for me it's either :

- You missed the core problem off 80 to 90% of the playerbase regarding Eureka
or
- this has to act as a "Ignoring the real issues 101"

I don't mean ill or anything here, it's not your fault ultimatly if this content mostly sucks for a vast majority of people, but I'm hopping that you ALSO take a note off the REAL issue and you'll pass it out to the dev team. Lockboxes sucks as much as the PotD's bags do and at the end they don't give any shit to trade for crystals like the diadem stuffs did so... changes or not it's more of a crappy bonus more than any real help to eventually get a outdated relic a the end.

[Rofel]

and you hope the guy in front of you trips and gets eaten so you can get to the NM without dying.

LMAO so true

[Ghastly]

Eureka is like if everything is on fire and you are constantly being chased by zombies, and you hope the guy in front of you trips and gets eaten so you can get to the NM without dying.

They really need to fix the culling though. Randomly getting 1 shot and taking damage with no fly text or even a combat log entry is a bummer. This problem has been around for a long time.

That's not a bad thing xD I wish all of Eorzea was this dangerous and interesting. Eureka itself is great, brings the community together. The problem is the things and lack of variety there, there are no events outside of NMs, not many different and FUN ways to get exp and crystals, and no randomness to the enemies, why isn't there a 50% chance that a morbol will splash bad breath on everyone? Why can't skeletons all of a sudden summon a horde of skeletons? Why are we forced into a LOOP of pulling the same enemies waiting for them to respawn instead of like making them dynamic and get weather bonuses, "survival" bonuses (like if this type of monster hasn't been killed in a while they give bonus crystals and exp).

Or let's say that all the dynamic stuff couldn't be done because our servers can't handle it

Why not then just make Eureka a no-party area where enemies fight like they do now but give a lot more exp and crystals? At least regular grinding will feel fun because killing 10 enemy alone will feel like we're making progress. I wouldn't mind this, it would be like when I do Hunt bills which is a lot of fun for me. Or even just add hunt bills, would make the monotonous loop of fighting the same monsters 1 hour have some kind of purpose. Or have Krile give us orders every 30 minutes

Kryle: Leshys are becoming too strong! We need to you to kill 30 of them! (And a Leshy boss at the end of that 30 chain)
We need the devs to not just use "safe" content that worked in other mmos and start adding creativity to them.

[Kaonis]

I'm not strawmanning. Someone literally said that SE needs to communicate with us when they just did. You personally assumed that because they didn't explicitely said that "we will continue to monitor feedback and make appropriate changes" that they won't do it.
People are complaining after we just got good news and proof that they listen and react quickly.

You're being very disingenuous. There, better? Myself and others have made the complaint that they weren't communicating on the core issues. Instead they only address a very minor complaint and give no indication they are even acknowledging what the vast majority of people are upset over. There is a severe lack of proper communication going on, and people are rightfully upset.

[LineageRazor]

Maybe it's because of my background in FFXI, but I don't really see why so many folks are up in arms about Eureka. It's comfortable, familiar territory to me: Exp camps where players kill regular mobs for hours for exp, quests and NMs that require sneaking past monsters that will cut you down in an instant if you don't handle them carefully, quests that encourage exploration and/or player communication to solve, rewards with pitifully low drop rates... Man, this place hits me strong with the nostalgia!

I'd say it wouldn't be out of the question to include some form of sneak/invis, but all in all it's not that bad. I don't really have any complaints.

[Ruf]

Dynamis was the most boring “weekly” content XI had to offer. Paths were completely lined out, nothing ever changed (kill this mob to trigger a NM, kill it to activate the boss, etc etc.) and if you were part of a Linkshell that was farming a particular relic, you had to run the same thing over and over. Sure, Dynamis Lord was pretty fun the first couple times... and then you stun locked him to death.

I enjoy this Eureka. It’s not perfect, but I like the concept; and it’s leagues better than Diadem.

Dynamis was & IS fun beyond just killing dynamis lord, 1alliance restriction (zone locked) to a much lower amount of players "weekly" was/is what make it that it doesn't occur mad lag from playerbase & so its playable.There is actually strategy based on the old dynamis system from xi, sure it could of been better but that's for another topic... I for the first time experienced Diadem pretty late on its implementation time & by the time I finally got strong enough to start enjoying the fighting content in there (while it was mostly a desert at the time...) Diadem got closed just to make it even worst a month later.

Relic and mythic weapons were worthwhile gear for years

ARR basically doesn't let you keep "multiples capped jobs" even if you do manage to reach cap you are held by limitations & not difficulty for the most part & the fact that some of the most difficult fights doesn't even give you highest ilvl in some situation proves it.

I absolutely agree. To everyone making comparisons between Eureka and FFXI: Eureka is nothing like FFXI, and it never will be.

Yeah, XI was grindy, but it at least had some depth and nuance to it. Eureka does not. Eureka is the distillation of all of FFXI's worst aspects, without any of the systems, context, or rewards that made the grind in XI feel meaningful or rewarding. I feel like Eureka exists because a lot of FFXI veterans have said for a long time that they wish XIV was more like XI, and the dev team followed through with this imitation content based upon that sentiment alone, without any understanding of what made FFXI enjoyable to begin with.

In the end, I have tried solo lvling up & I did hit chain 30 duo while full groups couldn't even handle it,while I also made a pf with full group, we would lose player before even starting on xping because of the nm train tendency, while I did my best to keep our group sane, ppl run off & die & get others killed while requiring raises, & I dont mind the xp lost, but the fact that this is a run & dodge & die when you often do not reach nms in times & that this create a ridiculous amount of lag on every player that does not own a 2018 top notch computer is just... a fact. I see ppl that cant keep up with the content because of processor & graphic card all the time, not to mention internet speed...

Ps:

I feel like Eureka exists because a lot of FFXI veterans have said for a long time that they wish XIV was more like XI, and the dev team followed through with this imitation content based upon that sentiment alone, without any understanding of what made FFXI enjoyable to begin with.

I feel like this too at times, more often than it should..imo.

[Fyce]

You're being very disingenuous. There, better? Myself and others have made the complaint that they weren't communicating on the core issues. Instead they only address a very minor complaint and give no indication they are even acknowledging what the vast majority of people are upset over. There is a severe lack of proper communication going on, and people are rightfully upset.

So you want them to come up with new gameplay solutions to all the issues people have spoken about... in three days?
People complain about how much time they needed to release Eureka, and you want them to revisit basically everything... in three days?

Talk about unrealistic expectations.

[MilanFrozen]

So you want them to come up with new gameplay solutions to all the issues people have spoken about... in three days?
People complain about how much time they needed to release Eureka, and you want them to revisit basically everything... in three days?

Talk about unrealistic expectations.

Talk about misrepresenting an argument. Where do you even see him say he's looking for a solution. All he's saying is that they didn't even acknowledge that there were any other problems.

[Stormfur]

If this is just a starting point for what Eureka will become, that's fine. They've already shown that they're listening to our feedback by taking out some of the dumb clutter from the lockboxes. Making vast, sweeping changes to the area takes time -- although I sincerely wonder, for something that was a year and a half in development, why it has ALL the hallmarks of diadem that players loudly disliked. It's possible that they also developed other things to be released over time that will add to the Eureka world.