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    Vidu's Avatar
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    Vidu Moriquendi
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    Quote Originally Posted by akaneakki View Post
    Fun is subjective. I find it fun with my friends from FC/LS and cross server friends.
    Each time I'm reading something like the highlighted part, I wonder: Do you find this content only fun with your friends? Maybe even because of your friends? Because you're doing it with them, maybe even in VoiceChat, talking about some nonsense, while grinding mobs?
    Its not meant as attack, everyone is entitled to like different things, but I cant help but wonder: Is this content good and fun enough that you'd enjoy it by yourself? Or is it more the company of your friends that you're enjoying here while Eureka without them would bore you to death aswell in 10 minutes?
    Because if it would, its not the achievment of the game that you're having fun with that content - its the achievment of your friends/company. And to spend time with them you dont need Eureka...
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    As for why the development took so long... yeah, I'd like to know that too...

    My personal theory is that a good portion of time actually went into stuff like the party system and the option to invite players inside the instance.

    My hope is that they spend the first 6 months desperatly trying to come up with something creative, fresh and new and then gave up on it and had to start from scretch. Wouldnt make me happy but more hopeful for the future that they tried something else before Eureka and used this final concept as "Damn, we got nothing...!" instead of actually believing that this is good content that people wanted.
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    Loki Lux
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    Lamia
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vidu View Post
    Each time I'm reading something like the highlighted part, I wonder: Do you find this content only fun with your friends? Maybe even because of your friends? Because you're doing it with them, maybe even in VoiceChat, talking about some nonsense, while grinding mobs?
    Its not meant as attack, everyone is entitled to like different things, but I cant help but wonder: Is this content good and fun enough that you'd enjoy it by yourself? Or is it more the company of your friends that you're enjoying here while Eureka without them would bore you to death aswell in 10 minutes?
    Because if it would, its not the achievment of the game that you're having fun with that content - its the achievment of your friends/company. And to spend time with them you dont need Eureka...
    I actually agree with your first sentiment. I totally abide by the game is fun with friends theory. This is shared not only in FFXIV but in other games as well. And while a game is fun when played with friends, it doesn't mean that game is good. So while the OP said fun is subjective, which is true, that doesn't make it good either. (good also being subjective I understand, however if a game is only good with friends you can't help but wonder...)

    The problem is, at least for me, FFXIV's base gameplay is too slow for endless mob grinds. If it was action based, I wouldn't mind it in the slightest. I play dynasty warrior and like games for days. Endless mob killing? sign me up! However with how slow FFXIV gameplay is.....its not fun in the slightest....And I'm bothered it had to be delayed in order to implement it as it is now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by silverlunarfox View Post
    I actually agree with your first sentiment. I totally abide by the game is fun with friends theory. This is shared not only in FFXIV but in other games as well. And while a game is fun when played with friends, it doesn't mean that game is good. So while the OP said fun is subjective, which is true, that doesn't make it good either. (good also being subjective I understand, however if a game is only good with friends you can't help but wonder...)

    The problem is, at least for me, FFXIV's base gameplay is too slow for endless mob grinds. If it was action based, I wouldn't mind it in the slightest. I play dynasty warrior and like games for days. Endless mob killing? sign me up! However with how slow FFXIV gameplay is.....its not fun in the slightest....And I'm bothered it had to be delayed in order to implement it as it is now.
    LAMO ya I can play DW too, never thought of it like that.

    Never thought the dev team are just putting a concept in a game that still does not fit the game despite months on it.
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